What modifications are needed to turn a stock STI into a rally car?
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Is the Subaru STI really a rally car? Whether it’s the big auto magazines, the marketing advertisements, or the Subaru forums, there’s certainly a rally aura surrounding the WRX. That appeal is part of why the Subaru STI was the first new car I ever bought, a 2014 Hatch in World Rally Blue.
But the first time I took my Subaru on anything other than smooth pavement, it didn’t exactly feel at home. The suspension is very stiff, and there’s not much ground clearance. Sure, the AWD system is fantastic, but there are plenty of vehicles with great AWD systems.
DirtFish Rally School, based in Snoqualmie, Washington, invited me to their three day rally program. Here, I was able to chat with their instructors and technicians, many of whom participate in rally racing across the country. Over the three days, on top of dialing in driving techniques, I was curious to learn about what physical changes they make to these cars in order to have them properly set up as rally cars, ready to thrash their courses, keep the occupants safe, and maybe even remain comfortable.
And it’s not nearly as simple as you might think - throw on some rally tires and call it a day. There’s extensive work done to get these things to safely and reliably perform on a multitude of surfaces. Check out the video for all the details!
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Is The Subaru WRX STI Really A Rally Car?
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elementalblaze79
Lol, why would I think you'd stall it as the instructor counted down?! Epic!!
Deducing Reality
Actually, to me those modifications seem rather minor. Bare minimum even, nice car.
Sol RC
One inch lift better shocks and springs. I know because my buddy does it all the time.
Porter House
Honestly pickup trucks in 2wd are awesome rally cars
Jon A
What a class like this cost? Even if it's just one days worth. Hundreds? Thousands?
Roni92pl
no
OGkilla420NY
15 and up are trash blow up fast brakes are 2 big now and cost more money to chnage believe me we all made the mistake buying suabru. Trust me evo 9 is the king 👑 on the road and bullet proof engine
rednecktek
Dirtfish? lols, you should have teamed up with barnacules nerdgasm to do something fun with rally. engineering explained and barnacules could be a cool thing.
Alistair White
Got a 2004 Forester XT. It's got a few mods to get 190kw at the wheels, front/rear LSD's, 20kg Sti rally centre diff and Sti spec C 13:1 quick steering rack. Stupidly fun/fast on gravel. Definately a rally car.....!
Eric Steele
Well duh
Tee Oh
I think if you’re driving as hard as pros and rally intended students, you will destroy a stock STI. However... going for a little soft sideways cruise can’t be too much can it? :)
Tee Oh
Very insightgful
Killing Fields
Yes. But especially if you up it to 200kw atw. My 200kw sti can do things my 310kw amg45s cant
Cloud Gaming
Well coming from someone who owns two no it’s not, however that doesnt stop people from thinking or treating it like it is. However also people enter very cheap cars into rallies all the time. Its a great way to get into the sport for very little money
Calvin Schultink
holy moly american accents are annoying
Kiran M Krishnan
the gear shifter also moves so much with the turns ..
Julia Monem
Alot of these modifications make sense for a car primarily sold for street use. I would say that the WRX STI seems like a good platform for many modifications, with the engine, trans, and the drivetrain all being perfect. safety modifications make sense as it would make the car less comfortable, and suspension setup really depends on the final use case. in the case of Dirtfish, you could tell that they focused on repairability and longevity, since it's a school that probably puts thousands of miles on these cars per year.
R1Armadill0
Very cool! So want to do this!
Desmo S
AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA
Chase Kloster
This is my new favorite video on the internet
Chad Houser
This looks fannnntastic!!!!
Christopher Gruenwald
Ok so thinking about getting 15 inch wheels for my 2014 wrx so I can put these tires on it. Having a hard time finding any source that can confirm fitment over the stock brakes. Does anyone know if stock wrx brakes in 2014 will fit in 15 inch wheel. It looks like it would be extremely tight to me looking at the stock 17 inch. What are my options?
MaXiMuS 123
12:16 that camera... GENIUS! Thx for sharing
Thorkell
Short answer : No
WARBAITS FISHING
NICE RUN!
DK
This is so cool!
Jon Bar
I would always do Brake-Turn-gas to get it pointed at the apex and letting the momentum cary me past it. Is that just because I'm using rear wheel drive?
Reginald Bowls
poor cones
Robbie Blaze
You monster! What did those poor cones do to you?
Littlefishinggoat
12:16 awesome launch! love it!
jay czyzyk
excellent reveiw
666louis
Cool Jason. That experience will come handy on wet tarmac or winter conditions for sure.
I'd like to try that, too.
Jadam247
M8 I rally my stock 1998 Subaru Forester with 453 000 ka on it, if it’s a suby it’s good for rally
Aldo Mandovani
Thats a gravel setup a tarmac set up is closer to a stock sti gravel and snow are similar with diferente tires and compresión rathes
baktru
The hing is hough. This is very USA centric. Here in Belgium the vast majority of rallying is on very narrow asphalt roads. For which the stock STi is good. We do have ONE rally that has a lot of gravel roads and I did it once (in regularity racing). Yeah stock Subarus suffer under those conditions.
Dylan Branshaw
Shout out to my Dirtfish boys!
Bumpy Bandwagon
Guy's a good coach
Steven Bukosky
Off topic. I saw a video of a cover pulled from a Tesla inverter that was leaking coolant. That made me think about the air cooled inverter in the Nissan electrics. This would be good to investigate which is better and when air cooling is adequate.
Radomír Frkous
Cars are a weapon weighting in over one ton. Hence THIS is how driving schools even for teenagers should look like!
Looks like you had hell of a time :) Cheers for your instructors and the compound in general ;)
Steve Fedorow
Yeah, one must be aware of what they are buying...I like STIs, but they’re not rally comp ready of the showroom floor. You get a decent base to start with, but without extra budget, it’ll do best in the road.
Spandan Kapadia
My man using a manual good job!
Nautricity
So, its not stock at all
Street to Sky
that was a fun video, really enjoyed it
Akhyar Rayhka
Subaru new tagline: Rally?Just send it!
narato uzumaki
Short answer no long answer no
Bryan Clark
I loved taking my 04 STI on dirt. But certainly never rallied it.
A. H.
I think it's more of a road/track car with rally abilities. Oddly enough the WRX with the softer suspension and five speed was always the popular rally car, the downside being the differentials.
Ideally you get the STI with a long travel suspension.
John Ces
Thumbnail "Just look at it!" 😆
Barry Hornby
Maybe I should try this in my peterbilt?
Toki52
Did you stay at Salish Lodge? Amazing hotel on Snoqualmie Falls, with one of the best restaurants in the Seattle area.
Matthew Warren
wish dirtfish existed where i am, would love to try something like that myself.
i'm not the only one who's heard dirtfish rally and thought people were saying DERP fish rally right??
Matthew Warren
stock sti suspension 1 day to 2 months? that's a huge difference. what do they do to break them in a day, launch them off jumps repeatedly?
Tyrael112
The amount of effort that goes into controlling the car makes it hard to keep the revs up. I see why the sequential transmissions are important.
Max Leadley-Brown
Have just played Dirt 4; this place looks eerily familiar...
Pontus Johansson
You don't KNOW rally unless you Finland.
Patrik Skultéti
This was awesome, nice driving, I want to do this one time, I love rally and wish to try it. From the sound of the engine and the way some exterior shots seen, It feels like to me the low end tourqe is not the best, or is it because the gearing is just long? Anyway how did the car feel for you? I wanted to ask.
jessy Ember
Ur braver than me. My stock sti hardly even gets driven let alone rallied.
ᴉoᗺsnʇɔɐϽ
I've always wondered this everytime I see them on the road lol
Gadiel Hernandez
Good run
Matt Yee
After 2007 they started looking more and more like Kias. The new one is like a 2008 Legacy GT. Even same seats. Lol
Metalhead
Not gonna lie, I'd try the course with my stock Tacoma.
Golden Games
Bruh thats the dumbest title ever...
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I mean WRX literally means world RALLY xperimental🤦🏻
Will F
Damn that looks fun!
Chonch
so the answer is No, no its not.
Josh Lewis
Rally cars used to be small, powerful, and light. This car is none of those.
Bob Edwards
you better bring a cybertruck here!
side not, theres a channel on utube, team Oneil rally school, they have a series called "will it rally" pretty cool!
Arturo Mora
Jason, you should check out the Vuhl 05. Street legal mexican race car
Jeremy Hernandez
Snoqualmie is the perfect place in WA for rallying haha
HydraliskX
You sure love 2nd gear.
Ryan Marshall
Awesome video! Love the "cutting board" sarcasm there. lol
Ko-wing wong
So basically Canadian weather driving school...
Baby Hair Automotive
VERY interesting how a stock STI is so NOT a rally car. oh branding....
Wallace The Collector
So what do they use for an airfilter?
Beard Wierd
Isn’t this literally group N/R4?
Jairo Macias Rally
Sooo what about an evo??
Baked Potato
I find it amusing when people buy STI's and EVO's then immediately try to race them and break the car. Out of the box sti and evo are a drivers car. Meant to carve up canyon roads. Good work on the ralley course and thank you for pointing out stock STI is not what most people think.
Zac Kontakis
According to James May, the best rally car is a caterham. But Jeremy Clarkson says it’s a Bentley
Bastian Nyström
Gotta say I didn't expect to get a nice explanation of some rally techniques from this video and I'm pleasantly surprised! Thank you for a great video!
blitzy
RIP cones
smokecigar
Why is there a woman in the car?
Zane H
I noticed when they stripped the interior they ripped out the steering wheel and replaced it with another one on the wrong side of the car 🦘😁
kevin bailey
👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
jeff yu
What kind air filter real rally car use?
Punnya Chakraborty
Save money save money save money. Must do Dirtfish next year.
Silver Fox
No American will ever win a wrc
Agent Stoner
a'right car just flip ill just cutting the veggies 😂
Tyler A
that cutting board joke was great. I didn't notice if you answered the question in the title. Do you think it's a really a rally car and if not, is it more rally ready then say a camry?
William Clark
Thanks so much for the excellent, extensive explanation and detailing of one of the best motorsports.
Kimi Rules
It's an understeering mess, not the driver but the car.
C Wayne
Head gasket manufacturers love Subaru.
Aaron Aguilar
This is pretty good content.
djtx14
real good job on this one man
Kenny C
Able to chat with aka have a muffled mumbling conversation @:55. If you can catch an aerosolized airborne bacteria on a mucous membrane - that includes eyeballs. The Government has played this out and the spectacle is getting old. Thumbs DOWN.
La Cai
Like Porsche is racing inspired car whit sweet weight balanced, everything YELLS TRACK TRACK TRACK! throw a stock Porsche in a long Race it does not do so well, and may even break.
They are inspired by orgin, but some modifications has to be done so they are pleasant on basic driving.
Daniel
rental cars make the best rally cars
Angry Turds2021
2:15 the tread blocks say "poo" 😊
aristo korat
it really is
elite kill
what is a rally car? any car can be converted to rally car........
jordan little
This looks like so much fun
J E
Lol dude subaru and audi are hands down the best rally rally cars stock or not. It's the driver. Better performance/equipment is obviously going to improve that skill