Is The Subaru WRX STI Really A Rally Car?

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What modifications are needed to turn a stock STI into a rally car?
Big thanks to DirtFish for inviting me out!
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Is the Subaru STI really a rally car? Whether it’s the big auto magazines, the marketing advertisements, or the Subaru forums, there’s certainly a rally aura surrounding the WRX. That appeal is part of why the Subaru STI was the first new car I ever bought, a 2014 Hatch in World Rally Blue.
But the first time I took my Subaru on anything other than smooth pavement, it didn’t exactly feel at home. The suspension is very stiff, and there’s not much ground clearance. Sure, the AWD system is fantastic, but there are plenty of vehicles with great AWD systems.
DirtFish Rally School, based in Snoqualmie, Washington, invited me to their three day rally program. Here, I was able to chat with their instructors and technicians, many of whom participate in rally racing across the country. Over the three days, on top of dialing in driving techniques, I was curious to learn about what physical changes they make to these cars in order to have them properly set up as rally cars, ready to thrash their courses, keep the occupants safe, and maybe even remain comfortable.
And it’s not nearly as simple as you might think - throw on some rally tires and call it a day. There’s extensive work done to get these things to safely and reliably perform on a multitude of surfaces. Check out the video for all the details!
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  • elementalblaze79


    2 саат мурун

    Lol, why would I think you'd stall it as the instructor counted down?! Epic!!

  • Deducing Reality

    Deducing Reality

    7 саат мурун

    Actually, to me those modifications seem rather minor. Bare minimum even, nice car.

  • Sol RC

    Sol RC

    11 саат мурун

    One inch lift better shocks and springs. I know because my buddy does it all the time.

  • Porter House

    Porter House

    12 саат мурун

    Honestly pickup trucks in 2wd are awesome rally cars

  • Jon A

    Jon A

    14 саат мурун

    What a class like this cost? Even if it's just one days worth. Hundreds? Thousands?

  • Roni92pl


    20 саат мурун


  • OGkilla420NY


    Күн мурун

    15 and up are trash blow up fast brakes are 2 big now and cost more money to chnage believe me we all made the mistake buying suabru. Trust me evo 9 is the king 👑 on the road and bullet proof engine

  • rednecktek


    Күн мурун

    Dirtfish? lols, you should have teamed up with barnacules nerdgasm to do something fun with rally. engineering explained and barnacules could be a cool thing.

  • Alistair White

    Alistair White

    Күн мурун

    Got a 2004 Forester XT. It's got a few mods to get 190kw at the wheels, front/rear LSD's, 20kg Sti rally centre diff and Sti spec C 13:1 quick steering rack. Stupidly fun/fast on gravel. Definately a rally car.....!

  • Eric Steele

    Eric Steele

    Күн мурун

    Well duh

  • Tee Oh

    Tee Oh

    Күн мурун

    I think if you’re driving as hard as pros and rally intended students, you will destroy a stock STI. However... going for a little soft sideways cruise can’t be too much can it? :)

  • Tee Oh

    Tee Oh

    Күн мурун

    Very insightgful

  • Killing Fields

    Killing Fields

    Күн мурун

    Yes. But especially if you up it to 200kw atw. My 200kw sti can do things my 310kw amg45s cant

  • Cloud Gaming

    Cloud Gaming

    Күн мурун

    Well coming from someone who owns two no it’s not, however that doesnt stop people from thinking or treating it like it is. However also people enter very cheap cars into rallies all the time. Its a great way to get into the sport for very little money

  • Calvin Schultink

    Calvin Schultink

    2 күн мурун

    holy moly american accents are annoying

  • Kiran M Krishnan

    Kiran M Krishnan

    3 күн мурун

    the gear shifter also moves so much with the turns ..

  • Julia Monem

    Julia Monem

    3 күн мурун

    Alot of these modifications make sense for a car primarily sold for street use. I would say that the WRX STI seems like a good platform for many modifications, with the engine, trans, and the drivetrain all being perfect. safety modifications make sense as it would make the car less comfortable, and suspension setup really depends on the final use case. in the case of Dirtfish, you could tell that they focused on repairability and longevity, since it's a school that probably puts thousands of miles on these cars per year.

  • R1Armadill0


    3 күн мурун

    Very cool! So want to do this!

  • Desmo S

    Desmo S

    3 күн мурун


  • Chase Kloster

    Chase Kloster

    4 күн мурун

    This is my new favorite video on the internet

  • Chad Houser

    Chad Houser

    4 күн мурун

    This looks fannnntastic!!!!

  • Christopher Gruenwald

    Christopher Gruenwald

    4 күн мурун

    Ok so thinking about getting 15 inch wheels for my 2014 wrx so I can put these tires on it. Having a hard time finding any source that can confirm fitment over the stock brakes. Does anyone know if stock wrx brakes in 2014 will fit in 15 inch wheel. It looks like it would be extremely tight to me looking at the stock 17 inch. What are my options?

  • MaXiMuS 123

    MaXiMuS 123

    4 күн мурун

    12:16 that camera... GENIUS! Thx for sharing

  • Thorkell


    4 күн мурун

    Short answer : No



    4 күн мурун


  • DK


    5 күн мурун

    This is so cool!

  • Jon Bar

    Jon Bar

    5 күн мурун

    I would always do Brake-Turn-gas to get it pointed at the apex and letting the momentum cary me past it. Is that just because I'm using rear wheel drive?

  • Reginald Bowls

    Reginald Bowls

    5 күн мурун

    poor cones

  • Robbie Blaze

    Robbie Blaze

    5 күн мурун

    You monster! What did those poor cones do to you?

  • Littlefishinggoat


    5 күн мурун

    12:16 awesome launch! love it!

  • jay czyzyk

    jay czyzyk

    5 күн мурун

    excellent reveiw

  • 666louis


    5 күн мурун

    Cool Jason. That experience will come handy on wet tarmac or winter conditions for sure.
    I'd like to try that, too.

  • Jadam247


    5 күн мурун

    M8 I rally my stock 1998 Subaru Forester with 453 000 ka on it, if it’s a suby it’s good for rally

  • Aldo Mandovani

    Aldo Mandovani

    5 күн мурун

    Thats a gravel setup a tarmac set up is closer to a stock sti gravel and snow are similar with diferente tires and compresión rathes

  • baktru


    5 күн мурун

    The hing is hough. This is very USA centric. Here in Belgium the vast majority of rallying is on very narrow asphalt roads. For which the stock STi is good. We do have ONE rally that has a lot of gravel roads and I did it once (in regularity racing). Yeah stock Subarus suffer under those conditions.

  • Dylan Branshaw

    Dylan Branshaw

    5 күн мурун

    Shout out to my Dirtfish boys!

  • Bumpy Bandwagon

    Bumpy Bandwagon

    5 күн мурун

    Guy's a good coach

  • Steven Bukosky

    Steven Bukosky

    5 күн мурун

    Off topic. I saw a video of a cover pulled from a Tesla inverter that was leaking coolant. That made me think about the air cooled inverter in the Nissan electrics. This would be good to investigate which is better and when air cooling is adequate.

  • Radomír Frkous

    Radomír Frkous

    6 күн мурун

    Cars are a weapon weighting in over one ton. Hence THIS is how driving schools even for teenagers should look like!
    Looks like you had hell of a time :) Cheers for your instructors and the compound in general ;)

  • Steve Fedorow

    Steve Fedorow

    6 күн мурун

    Yeah, one must be aware of what they are buying...I like STIs, but they’re not rally comp ready of the showroom floor. You get a decent base to start with, but without extra budget, it’ll do best in the road.

  • Spandan Kapadia

    Spandan Kapadia

    6 күн мурун

    My man using a manual good job!

  • Nautricity


    6 күн мурун

    So, its not stock at all

  • Street to Sky

    Street to Sky

    6 күн мурун

    that was a fun video, really enjoyed it

  • Akhyar Rayhka

    Akhyar Rayhka

    6 күн мурун

    Subaru new tagline: Rally?Just send it!

  • narato uzumaki

    narato uzumaki

    6 күн мурун

    Short answer no long answer no

  • Bryan Clark

    Bryan Clark

    6 күн мурун

    I loved taking my 04 STI on dirt. But certainly never rallied it.

  • A. H.

    A. H.

    6 күн мурун

    I think it's more of a road/track car with rally abilities. Oddly enough the WRX with the softer suspension and five speed was always the popular rally car, the downside being the differentials.
    Ideally you get the STI with a long travel suspension.

  • John Ces

    John Ces

    6 күн мурун

    Thumbnail "Just look at it!" 😆

  • Barry Hornby

    Barry Hornby

    6 күн мурун

    Maybe I should try this in my peterbilt?

  • Toki52


    6 күн мурун

    Did you stay at Salish Lodge? Amazing hotel on Snoqualmie Falls, with one of the best restaurants in the Seattle area.

  • Matthew Warren

    Matthew Warren

    6 күн мурун

    wish dirtfish existed where i am, would love to try something like that myself.
    i'm not the only one who's heard dirtfish rally and thought people were saying DERP fish rally right??

  • Matthew Warren

    Matthew Warren

    6 күн мурун

    stock sti suspension 1 day to 2 months? that's a huge difference. what do they do to break them in a day, launch them off jumps repeatedly?

  • Tyrael112


    6 күн мурун

    The amount of effort that goes into controlling the car makes it hard to keep the revs up. I see why the sequential transmissions are important.

  • Max Leadley-Brown

    Max Leadley-Brown

    7 күн мурун

    Have just played Dirt 4; this place looks eerily familiar...

  • Pontus Johansson

    Pontus Johansson

    7 күн мурун

    You don't KNOW rally unless you Finland.

  • Patrik Skultéti

    Patrik Skultéti

    7 күн мурун

    This was awesome, nice driving, I want to do this one time, I love rally and wish to try it. From the sound of the engine and the way some exterior shots seen, It feels like to me the low end tourqe is not the best, or is it because the gearing is just long? Anyway how did the car feel for you? I wanted to ask.

  • jessy Ember

    jessy Ember

    7 күн мурун

    Ur braver than me. My stock sti hardly even gets driven let alone rallied.

  • ᴉoᗺsnʇɔɐϽ


    7 күн мурун

    I've always wondered this everytime I see them on the road lol

  • Gadiel Hernandez

    Gadiel Hernandez

    7 күн мурун

    Good run

  • Matt Yee

    Matt Yee

    7 күн мурун

    After 2007 they started looking more and more like Kias. The new one is like a 2008 Legacy GT. Even same seats. Lol

  • Metalhead


    7 күн мурун

    Not gonna lie, I'd try the course with my stock Tacoma.

  • Golden Games

    Golden Games

    7 күн мурун

    Bruh thats the dumbest title ever...
    I mean WRX literally means world RALLY xperimental🤦🏻

  • Will F

    Will F

    7 күн мурун

    Damn that looks fun!

  • Chonch


    7 күн мурун

    so the answer is No, no its not.

  • Josh Lewis

    Josh Lewis

    7 күн мурун

    Rally cars used to be small, powerful, and light. This car is none of those.

  • Bob Edwards

    Bob Edwards

    7 күн мурун

    you better bring a cybertruck here!
    side not, theres a channel on utube, team Oneil rally school, they have a series called "will it rally" pretty cool!

  • Arturo Mora

    Arturo Mora

    7 күн мурун

    Jason, you should check out the Vuhl 05. Street legal mexican race car

  • Jeremy Hernandez

    Jeremy Hernandez

    7 күн мурун

    Snoqualmie is the perfect place in WA for rallying haha

  • HydraliskX


    8 күн мурун

    You sure love 2nd gear.

  • Ryan Marshall

    Ryan Marshall

    8 күн мурун

    Awesome video! Love the "cutting board" sarcasm there. lol

  • Ko-wing wong

    Ko-wing wong

    8 күн мурун

    So basically Canadian weather driving school...

  • Baby Hair Automotive

    Baby Hair Automotive

    8 күн мурун

    VERY interesting how a stock STI is so NOT a rally car. oh branding....

  • Wallace The Collector

    Wallace The Collector

    8 күн мурун

    So what do they use for an airfilter?

  • Beard Wierd

    Beard Wierd

    8 күн мурун

    Isn’t this literally group N/R4?

  • Jairo Macias Rally

    Jairo Macias Rally

    8 күн мурун

    Sooo what about an evo??

  • Baked Potato

    Baked Potato

    8 күн мурун

    I find it amusing when people buy STI's and EVO's then immediately try to race them and break the car. Out of the box sti and evo are a drivers car. Meant to carve up canyon roads. Good work on the ralley course and thank you for pointing out stock STI is not what most people think.

  • Zac Kontakis

    Zac Kontakis

    8 күн мурун

    According to James May, the best rally car is a caterham. But Jeremy Clarkson says it’s a Bentley

  • Bastian Nyström

    Bastian Nyström

    8 күн мурун

    Gotta say I didn't expect to get a nice explanation of some rally techniques from this video and I'm pleasantly surprised! Thank you for a great video!

  • blitzy


    8 күн мурун

    RIP cones

  • smokecigar


    8 күн мурун

    Why is there a woman in the car?

  • Zane H

    Zane H

    8 күн мурун

    I noticed when they stripped the interior they ripped out the steering wheel and replaced it with another one on the wrong side of the car 🦘😁

  • kevin bailey

    kevin bailey

    8 күн мурун


  • jeff yu

    jeff yu

    8 күн мурун

    What kind air filter real rally car use?

  • Punnya Chakraborty

    Punnya Chakraborty

    8 күн мурун

    Save money save money save money. Must do Dirtfish next year.

  • Silver Fox

    Silver Fox

    8 күн мурун

    No American will ever win a wrc

  • Agent Stoner

    Agent Stoner

    8 күн мурун

    a'right car just flip ill just cutting the veggies 😂

  • Tyler A

    Tyler A

    8 күн мурун

    that cutting board joke was great. I didn't notice if you answered the question in the title. Do you think it's a really a rally car and if not, is it more rally ready then say a camry?

  • William Clark

    William Clark

    8 күн мурун

    Thanks so much for the excellent, extensive explanation and detailing of one of the best motorsports.

  • Kimi Rules

    Kimi Rules

    8 күн мурун

    It's an understeering mess, not the driver but the car.

  • C Wayne

    C Wayne

    8 күн мурун

    Head gasket manufacturers love Subaru.

  • Aaron Aguilar

    Aaron Aguilar

    8 күн мурун

    This is pretty good content.

  • djtx14


    8 күн мурун

    real good job on this one man

  • Kenny C

    Kenny C

    8 күн мурун

    Able to chat with aka have a muffled mumbling conversation @:55. If you can catch an aerosolized airborne bacteria on a mucous membrane - that includes eyeballs. The Government has played this out and the spectacle is getting old. Thumbs DOWN.

  • La Cai

    La Cai

    8 күн мурун

    Like Porsche is racing inspired car whit sweet weight balanced, everything YELLS TRACK TRACK TRACK! throw a stock Porsche in a long Race it does not do so well, and may even break.
    They are inspired by orgin, but some modifications has to be done so they are pleasant on basic driving.

  • Daniel


    8 күн мурун

    rental cars make the best rally cars

  • Angry Turds2021

    Angry Turds2021

    8 күн мурун

    2:15 the tread blocks say "poo" 😊

  • aristo korat

    aristo korat

    8 күн мурун

    it really is

  • elite kill

    elite kill

    8 күн мурун

    what is a rally car? any car can be converted to rally car........

  • jordan little

    jordan little

    8 күн мурун

    This looks like so much fun

  • J E

    J E

    8 күн мурун

    Lol dude subaru and audi are hands down the best rally rally cars stock or not. It's the driver. Better performance/equipment is obviously going to improve that skill