Should You Use Racing Oil In Your Road Car?

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What’s the difference between road car and race car (like NASCAR) oil?
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What are the differences between race car oil, like the oil used in NASCAR, and the oil used in our everyday road cars? NASCAR oil regulations are fairly unrestricted, allowing for unique formulations, whereas road car oils need to meet very specific industry requirements for certifications. In this video, we’ll dive into the differences between engine design, drain intervals, oil viscosities, oil additives including zinc (ZDDP) and bespoke versus mass market formulas. I spent time discussing these topics with Mobil 1 engineering, Roush Yates Engines, and Stewart Haas Racing to find out more. Watch for all the details! #Mobil1Partner
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  • Angus

    Angus

    Саат мурун

    Drag racing typically use 0 weight, run, then drain and replace.

  • Rachid AMRI

    Rachid AMRI

    2 күн мурун

    Just picked 5 quarts of race oil for my camry. Oil change every month, engine rebuild every 500miles.

  • Langston Walton

    Langston Walton

    2 күн мурун

    What if your going to the track and change your oil every two track days? can I just leave the track oil in the car since ill be changing the oil way more often>

  • LoveJuice

    LoveJuice

    2 күн мурун

    if money is a critical problem then dont. if its only 2 months of eating garbage, go spend all your money on your car c:

  • Daniel S

    Daniel S

    2 күн мурун

    Oil change intervals aren't just a mileage interval but also by a calendar interval, e.g. or 12 months. So if you car does 1500 miles in a year you need to change the oil because it is a year old. The other thing about road cars V NASCAR is that a road may have to do a dead stop from 70 mph upwards (approaching a roundabout at speed and then seeing at the last moment it isn't going to be clear as you thought and rather then proceed onto it you have to make a dead stop). The road car won't be dry-sumped and may experience surge under braking (negating the use of lower viscosity oils).

  • mark warnberg

    mark warnberg

    3 күн мурун

    This still does not expalin the Viscosity Index where higher Viscosity withstands heat better. Logical thinking say´s that high performance engins run HOT, very hot when the oil is going through a Turbo Charger and thus need more protection! The 16-20 weight oil lubrication falls off at a certain heated point so in order too maintain the engins performance the oil weight must be increased to 30 or 40. So WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN AUTO MANUFACTURERS RECOMMEND SUCH LOW WEIGHT OIL???

  • Gavin Lam

    Gavin Lam

    3 күн мурун

    Isnt the oil change interval in our cheap track cars for this significantly smaller?

  • Joe Ca

    Joe Ca

    3 күн мурун

    ich fahr nur kickdown!

  • Chris R Carraher

    Chris R Carraher

    4 күн мурун

    IMO if you track your car, fill with a race formula for your event because the added zddp will protect your bearings at high rpm/high heat. Then just drain and refill with oem after the track day for daily driving. Changing oil is cheaper than changing engines.

  • MrEqtube

    MrEqtube

    5 күн мурун

    I have only one gripe about this video: please, stop talking about "tolerances". Engine has clearances. The clearances have tolerances. Points to that oil viscosity is not referred as "weight". There is no such a thing as w30 oil; it is an oil, that has viscosity grade that can be classified as SAE 30.

  • Mikki Hintikka

    Mikki Hintikka

    6 күн мурун

    when are you going to stop using imperial units? i sub you again after you have done that transformation. only then you will honor the legacy of engineers

    • Mikki Hintikka

      Mikki Hintikka

      2 күн мурун

      @Daniel S so what those people at nasa are? Nasa uses metric.

    • Daniel S

      Daniel S

      2 күн мурун

      Metric Mikki - real engineers love imperial.

  • Dave Norman

    Dave Norman

    6 күн мурун

    Mmm I'm an engine builder..all engines have metal to metal contact in some way, plain bearings are still used in crankshafts,overhead cam engines use shims for valve adjustment and then there's timing and distributor gears you cannot rely on oil pressure/film...Always use oil with a high zinc people and replace your cat converter every 50thou if you are worried.

  • MidgetTiger

    MidgetTiger

    6 күн мурун

    *ZDDP*

  • Ry

    Ry

    7 күн мурун

    “Road cars are rarely at full throttle”
    My Fiesta ST : 😐

  • MrDanMan

    MrDanMan

    7 күн мурун

    Has anyone counted how many times he said "ZDDP"

  • MrDanMan

    MrDanMan

    7 күн мурун

    3:24 Some diesel engines in Peugeot cars need oil changes only every 30.000KMs

  • Frag EightyFive

    Frag EightyFive

    8 күн мурун

    I never understood why talking about oil (brand, viscosity, change interval ect..) is like a religion to many people. You aren't going to outsmart the engineers that put literally millions of hours of R&D into the development and testing of the motors.

  • gothic pagan

    gothic pagan

    8 күн мурун

    The 0w50 has possibilities in older European engines

  • Daniel LA

    Daniel LA

    8 күн мурун

    How about for BMW 535 Diesel? which oil would you recommend?

  • Charl Jacobs

    Charl Jacobs

    9 күн мурун

    When you are young use thinner oil. When you are old, like me, use grease

  • Charl Jacobs

    Charl Jacobs

    9 күн мурун

    True. I use normal high viscosity oil on my air cooled 650 thumper and never has my bike run better without using oil or eating the rings. As soon as i go the the thinner recommended oil i use oil and wear out rings quicker.

  • ampedex

    ampedex

    9 күн мурун

    Well that's good for me since I don't have any catalytic converter 😅

  • Charles Darwin

    Charles Darwin

    9 күн мурун

    Best oil for FA20 WRX?

  • TheSleepyWeasel

    TheSleepyWeasel

    10 күн мурун

    142 thumbs down from kids in hatchbacks who think racing oils will make their street car faster.

  • D H

    D H

    10 күн мурун

    no one here watch this video with a road car that is rarely at full throttle

  • Michał K

    Michał K

    10 күн мурун

    If your oil producer says than has oil with 30000km replacement interval - change oil producer you use

  • GBass

    GBass

    10 күн мурун

    ZDDP - how much Zinc & Phos is in Mobil 1 street car oil today?

  • Cruz Monrreal

    Cruz Monrreal

    10 күн мурун

    Heheh...
    "engine"-uity

  • YZ Rippin

    YZ Rippin

    11 күн мурун

    Still putting penzoil ultra platinum in my base model corolla. Shes red. That means shes a racecar.

  • Vignesh N.Y

    Vignesh N.Y

    11 күн мурун

    Thanks for the video. Learnt more about ZDDP. The more common additive in race spec Oils is Moly. Does that cause any harm or benefit?
    Also race Oils are generally Type 5 Ester based, so do not need so much pour point suppressants as they cling on to the cylinder walls. Thoughts please @engineeringexplained

  • everydaycommuter

    everydaycommuter

    12 күн мурун

    I gain horsepower by just draining to oil. I have to switch my engine out often, but it is worth it.

  • Car Guy66

    Car Guy66

    13 күн мурун

    What I hear here is that boxer engines really need high zddp bc of engine wear mainly on the lower sides of the cylinders

  • Ryan

    Ryan

    13 күн мурун

    Motul 300V is good stuff. I run amsoil signurature and Pennzoil ultra platinum on the street. Motul is too rich for my blood 😆😭

  • That Riki Thing

    That Riki Thing

    13 күн мурун

    "Road cars are rarely at full throttle"
    Me: Hold my beer...

  • Taha Ali Uthman

    Taha Ali Uthman

    13 күн мурун

    I want a competition between this guy and Bill Nye the science guy!!! Up vote for a video!!!!!!

  • Taha Ali Uthman

    Taha Ali Uthman

    13 күн мурун

    I only shift at 9000 RPM....... Simple

  • Bentley Harden

    Bentley Harden

    13 күн мурун

    Other than sounding like a snake oil salesman...
    Switching from flat tappet to roller tappet removed the need for zinc. BS. Ever seen the number of roller cams that wear flat? It’s just as necessary. I get the need for thin oil with cam phasers, but sacrifice the rest of the motor for it? I’ve only lost 2 motors in my 45 year career in automotive. Both were running pisswater oils. 0-20, etc. synthetic. Never lost a motor on 20W-50 Castrol. Some of the sludge I’ve seen where synthetic oil was used should be an embarrassment. Very common. And destructive. Synthetic has run its course. Snake oil for the masses!

  • Louie

    Louie

    14 күн мурун

    Amsoil is better

  • Daves Garage

    Daves Garage

    14 күн мурун

    "imagine owning a road car that needs an oil change every 500 miles or engine change every 1500" yeah imagine owning a ferrari/lambo/mclaren and following their suggested service intervals. I believe one of the lambo's is "gearbox rebuild every 2 years or 1500 miles"

  • Tahsin Faiyaz

    Tahsin Faiyaz

    14 күн мурун

    basically no extra info apart from common sense.

  • Jared Hoats

    Jared Hoats

    14 күн мурун

    @Engineering Explained, speaking of NASCAR, you could definitely dive into the realm of the "dog box transmissions" used in their stock cars to make shifting a manual transmission instantaneous (who doesn't love slamming gears? ;) )

  • louco

    louco

    14 күн мурун

    "Should You Use JET A-1 Aviation Kerosene In Your Road Car?" Pathetic.

  • The Kombinator

    The Kombinator

    14 күн мурун

    Sweet, I can use ZDDP at will in my project car - pre-emissions :D

  • Jesse Budelman

    Jesse Budelman

    14 күн мурун

    I’m that guy that would spend $600 on an oil change, and eat ramen for 6 months. Worth it. 😎👌🏻

  • Ljůk Popers

    Ljůk Popers

    14 күн мурун

    Only 10w60...

  • Jesse Estrada

    Jesse Estrada

    14 күн мурун

    What about racing the road oil

  • Vehicles n' Guitfiddles

    Vehicles n' Guitfiddles

    14 күн мурун

    Looks like you are about to blow off a head on your 3D printed V8!

  • Joney Durpp

    Joney Durpp

    14 күн мурун

    "Imagine owning a car that needed oil changes every 500 miles"
    *sweats in rotary oil guzzler*

    • Armouredfalcon

      Armouredfalcon

      12 күн мурун

      *laughs in weekly oil refills in my old honda*

  • Rick

    Rick

    14 күн мурун

    What if our car is a race car hmm 🤔🤔🤔

  • Wesley Haws

    Wesley Haws

    14 күн мурун

    Says no one wants to pay $100 for an oil change while I’m over here spending that on asmoil signature series for my focus😬😬😬

    • reginald Small

      reginald Small

      14 күн мурун

      You are the smart one. Amsoil is #1

  • The Knof

    The Knof

    14 күн мурун

    3:53 what do you mean? my Fiesta 100hk 1.0 ecoboost is always at full throttle

  • Jason Brady

    Jason Brady

    14 күн мурун

    Is that a QR code at 2:00 ?

  • TheNewNoise7

    TheNewNoise7

    14 күн мурун

    Worth using “racing oil” if tracking the car?

  • Tim Alma

    Tim Alma

    15 күн мурун

    Is the answer NO?

  • Little B

    Little B

    15 күн мурун

    either way
    dun drink them
    dun follow those who eat tide pods

  • Jim H

    Jim H

    15 күн мурун

    Yes, bcuz race car. Nuff said.

  • Brian Swille

    Brian Swille

    15 күн мурун

    02:37 what car is that engine bay from? Those, what I presume are, strut towers...look beefy AF

  • The Opinion of Matt

    The Opinion of Matt

    15 күн мурун

    I would like to see a video on the "lifetime" transmission fluids that some car manufactures are putting in their vehicles now.

  • Shawn Dickens

    Shawn Dickens

    15 күн мурун

    DLC is Diamond Like Carbon

  • Esat'ın Maceraları

    Esat'ın Maceraları

    15 күн мурун

    Zinc Dialafhajkshdgklhsajlghsadg phospate

  • Anthony Faubus

    Anthony Faubus

    15 күн мурун

    So, what oil should I use? 😜 jk, excellent info Jason, as usual 😁

  • pecheblende

    pecheblende

    15 күн мурун

    alguien me puede ayudar antes podía ponerle subtitulos a este canal pero ya no puedo y los vídeos que abia visto antes subtitulados ya no los puedo ver subtitulados ¿qué pasó que hice mal?

  • shuhel miah

    shuhel miah

    15 күн мурун

    Finally love this geeky oil stuff

  • Adam Bower

    Adam Bower

    15 күн мурун

    Mobil1 advertising and marketing, delivered by EE.

  • John Destroyer

    John Destroyer

    15 күн мурун

    Pretty shallow explanation, I did expect more, given the usual content is much more detailed.
    Nice for an intro, but there is little described here. ZDDP is not the only additive that makes race application oil.

  • DMan 50

    DMan 50

    15 күн мурун

    Im a Castrol Edge guy

  • Leon Ramkumar

    Leon Ramkumar

    15 күн мурун

    I’m a Karate guy, but I wear boxers. To each their own.

  • DaRockCRX

    DaRockCRX

    15 күн мурун

    question: How does better synthetic base oils which are more durable under high temperature high sheer situations make the ZDDP less needed? comparing oil with 60s tech with 2021 synthetics.

  • Limp Rooster

    Limp Rooster

    16 күн мурун

    I'm aware this is one engine out of thousands, but the Jeep 4.0 was an extremely common engine that rocked a flat tappet cam well into the 2000s...

  • Andres

    Andres

    16 күн мурун

    You have a great opportunity to ask mobile 1s team about anything. If at all possible, could you ask them about motorcycle racing oils? Since the oil also lubricates the clutch I'm very interested in knowing about what goes in it
    Thanks in advance

  • Jinge Liu

    Jinge Liu

    16 күн мурун

    Now, Can I have that engine in my car?

  • Johnathan Doe

    Johnathan Doe

    16 күн мурун

    Can you do a video on why the GR Yaris comes with 0w-20 in it? I’m guessing it’s to try to eek some kind of economy out of it?
    Tempted to drop it and put some 0-30w or 0-40w in because 20 seems insanely thin.

  • iRA

    iRA

    16 күн мурун

    EV
    Mobil bancrupt 3, 2, 1,...

  • TheThunderwars

    TheThunderwars

    16 күн мурун

    I run my highly prepared classic cars with "racing oils", which means tons of zinc, 10w60 (yes, this exists !) for easier cold start compared to 20w50 and higher oil pressure when hot (and bothered) in the summer. My classic mini with its A-Series pushrod engine revs up to 8k rpm when needed (=when I need to hear a beautiful sound) but rarely sees over 7k even when driven hard in those french B-roads and high viscosity, high quality oils are a part of what helps this engine not grenading itself, considering it only has 3 bearings. For road use, go thick, you don't really need those 2-5% theoritical increase in HP, and you will keep those horses for longer.

  • MOPARman345 HEMI

    MOPARman345 HEMI

    16 күн мурун

    Road cars rarely at full throttle... Heh, not my road car 😁

  • thetommantom

    thetommantom

    16 күн мурун

    I stick to 0W20 unless it sounds cheap or winy burns or in summer I might drain a quart and replace with 0W40 if it said 10W40 maybe I'd only go to 5W30

  • datsuntoyy

    datsuntoyy

    16 күн мурун

    I use Truffle oil. Not only is it thin for max efficiency but it doesn't affect emissions and it smells good as you go down the street. It's not synthetic though so there's that.

  • Tom P

    Tom P

    16 күн мурун

    Bottom line: Oil it makes the parts slippery.
    Slippery parts = happy parts.

  • Vít Nohýl

    Vít Nohýl

    16 күн мурун

    If he says one more time "ZDDP" I'll kill myself

  • Michael Price

    Michael Price

    16 күн мурун

    Mobil synthetic uses only base III grade oil. I prefer base grade IV. Mobil is really a semi synthetic oil. Also never understood why anyone would want a race oil in their car. Race oils changed after every race. No need for any detergents or long term additives.

  • THERIGGEDONE

    THERIGGEDONE

    17 күн мурун

    I have a Triton 5.4 engine which Ford recommends using 5W-20.
    A lot of folks out there recommend switching to 5w-30, stating that 5w-20 was there to meet CAFE standards and that 5W-20 wouldn’t protect the engine as well.
    I’m confused-do i listen to the internet clan or the Ford engineers?
    Oh yea, i reside in Texas, a hot and humid climate.
    Thanks

  • Luis García-Pimentel Ruiz

    Luis García-Pimentel Ruiz

    17 күн мурун

    What about ZDDP on old style Diesel engines, like VW PD, it should be great, is not that true? What oil characteristics would you recommend for this engine? BTW i change oil about every 7500km or half VW 15,000km recommendation which I think is excessive and conductive to trouble.

  • Mado BA

    Mado BA

    17 күн мурун

    Of course you can, but you should select the R gear for race mode as well.

  • Tarek A

    Tarek A

    17 күн мурун

    Mobil 1 the worst oil ever made and worst oil for your car.. I seen many engines die at low mileage because all they used was mobil 1.. Every car new or old was always short on oil after 3 weeks of changing oil and almost 1/4-1/2 of the oil burnt off before next oil change.. Don't use this crap.. Mobil 1 just good at advertising and pays many people put their sticker on their cars and even if used in racing its changed every 200-500km

  • Justin Singh

    Justin Singh

    17 күн мурун

    When you drive a Rx-7

  • Lonnie Beal

    Lonnie Beal

    17 күн мурун

    It was my understanding racing oil had zddp or zinc in it, which will slowly clog the catalytic converter. Race cars don't have catalytic converters. I'd trust Redline 5w20 in warm weather due to it's higher anti-wear package. But so far I've seen no tests that heated oil to 200F and then doing a bearing wear test using 5w20 vs 10w30.

  • Mark Arjay Estoque

    Mark Arjay Estoque

    17 күн мурун

    No.

  • Rex Paul

    Rex Paul

    17 күн мурун

    Needed to top up my older chevy and picked up a quart of Mobil1 today!

  • sandas turner

    sandas turner

    17 күн мурун

    I say no.

  • gidderman

    gidderman

    17 күн мурун

    ALOT of newer vehicles use bucket lifters, and ZDDP is very important to prevent camshaft failure. As said however there is that pesky catalyst which prevents the higher concentrations of ZDDP in newer approved oils, however there are HIGH MILAGE oils which do tend to have higher concentrations of ZDDP ;)

  • buckaroobonsi555

    buckaroobonsi555

    17 күн мурун

    Well your only 17 years late to the party since I ran M1R 0W30 original formula in my 2003 Camry. Red Line Oil covered detonation issues and the difference between race oil and oil for daily drivers 2 decades ago especialy as it relates to dispersants, tbn and organometallic additives etc. They also have been selling 5wt. race oil for decades.

  • rémY

    rémY

    17 күн мурун

    PLEASE PUT METRIC EQUIVALENT SOMEWHERE IN THE VIDEO EVERYTIME A MEASUREMENT IS STATED

  • andgate2000

    andgate2000

    17 күн мурун

    Just use what the manufacturers say....you dont have to think then.

  • The Drive

    The Drive

    17 күн мурун

    I took a drink every time you said zddp..now I'm drunk..

  • David Dey

    David Dey

    17 күн мурун

    I use diesel engine oil in my racecar because of its high zddp content

  • AeroGarage

    AeroGarage

    17 күн мурун

    So oil is the only thing that's deregulated in NASCAR.

  • Jonas

    Jonas

    17 күн мурун

    I was suprised to see that my 2008 volvo XC70 D5 uses 0W-30 oil as standard, i can go 5W-30 too for summer use i guess but i don't know if i need to for regular driving

  • TheJoker

    TheJoker

    17 күн мурун

    What are your thoughts on the Audi S4 B9 being switched to 0w-20 oil when Europe still uses 5w-30? I am not happy having to use 0w-20, would you use it?

  • Nico D. Sun

    Nico D. Sun

    18 күн мурун

    If you don't use 80%-100% throttle all the time you car has too much horsepower.

  • 123456789040670

    123456789040670

    18 күн мурун

    Jason, are there any practical applications for turning a cars TCS/stability control systems off, or is being a hoon the only reason to do this?