The Gordon Murray T.50s Can Drive Upside Down

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The Track Only T.50s has more power, more downforce, and less weight.
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The Gordon Murray Automotive T.50s is the track-only version of their latest supercar. It has a 4.0L naturally aspirated V12 engine producing 720 horsepower, it weighs less than 900 kg, and it creates over 1500 kg of downforce. That's enough downforce to even drive upside down. Murray: “Designing the racing car’s aerodynamics has been extremely rewarding. My love for motorsport really fueled the development of this car. The aerodynamics are so effective that the T.50s would be capable of driving upside down, and could do so at as little as 175mph.”
GMA Press Release:
"Gordon Murray Automotive has announced a racing-focused version of the T.50 supercar that will be even lighter, faster, and more powerful. With all of the road-going T.50 supercars selling out within 48 hours of the global premiere, customer demand has turned to the 25 super-exclusive and highly-individual racing models.
Priced at £3.1m (before taxes) the racing variant - codenamed T.50s - weighs just 890kg, while its Cosworth GMA V12 engine develops even more power. The new car also features a 1,758mm-wide delta wing mounted to the rear of the car, which works with the rear-mounted fan, a new front splitter, underbody aerofoil and adjustable diffusers to generate more than 1,500kg of downforce - 170% of the weight of the car.
The new car’s historically-significant official name will be announced later this year at its global reveal. More than half of the exclusive production run has already been sold - before any details were released. Murray now expects interest to soar as prospective owners hear of the boundary breaking performance potential of the T.50s.
Professor Gordon Murray: “With an unwavering focus on performance, and free from road-going legislation and maintenance considerations, the T.50s will achieve astonishing performance on track, demonstrating the full extent of the car’s capabilities. We’ve thrown everything at pushing this car beyond the levels of anything that’s been done before - it’s a celebration of British engineering and our team’s extensive motorsport experience.”
The extensively re-engineered T.50s features hundreds of significant revisions for race and track use over the road-going T.50. The stripped-back interior highlights the track focus and contributes to the new car’s 94kg weight loss. This enhanced lightweighting and the car’s phenomenal downforce ratio will ensure the car performs like nothing else on a racing circuit."
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  • Spinister

    Spinister

    19 күн мурун

    Best supercar ever

  • Scott West

    Scott West

    25 күн мурун

    Why do you work in pounds and kilos at the same time

  • Bill Kong

    Bill Kong

    Ай мурун

    This can maybe drive upside down, but it'd be marginal. The lift devices these cars use have typical L/D of about 3-4, so that 1500 kgf downforce will be producing something like 400 kgf of drag, which would need at least 400 kgf of normal force to supply the needed traction. You have 610 kg of maximum normal force and your engine is already close to max power counteracting drag, so you'd have about 400 kgf in either direction worth of lateral acceleration, which corresponds to a maximum steering angle deviationof about 0.11 degrees.

  • Bill Kong

    Bill Kong

    Ай мурун

    Ah yes the metric haters who haven't heard of kgf

  • leonejedi

    leonejedi

    Ай мурун

    should we really call it downforce when the car is pushed up? hmmmm

  • Sung Cung

    Sung Cung

    Ай мурун

    Jokes on you they didn't get 1500kg of downforce its actually 1600kg downforce

  • Radley Nonston

    Radley Nonston

    Ай мурун

    Doesn’t downforce change with speed?

  • Luis Oller

    Luis Oller

    2 ай мурун

    This channel is really awesome, you explain things with a excellent clarity and everything is so easy to understand. And also the contents are really enjoyable. Congrats

  • Greco Conduris

    Greco Conduris

    2 ай мурун

    Some how I missed there as an S version.

  • Papote Yata

    Papote Yata

    2 ай мурун

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    • Papote Yata

      Papote Yata

      2 ай мурун

      9:14 graphic

  • Bloody Pommel Studios

    Bloody Pommel Studios

    3 ай мурун

    Seeing a car drive upside down would be an amazing publicity stunt. Very dangerous stunt given the speed needed and building the track wouldn't be cheap but I think it would be worth it.
    I think this trick would be pretty easy with an RC car designed for this purpose. Driving up a wall would be doable too provided you had a ramp up to it and hit the ramp with enough speed.

  • jonntischnabel

    jonntischnabel

    3 ай мурун

    For the record. In the UK Murray doesn't rhyme with hooray 😂😂😂

  • srinitaaigaura

    srinitaaigaura

    3 ай мурун

    I like that uncompromised vision of Gordon, he doesn't compromise road setup for track setup or vice versa. The main thing here which even you failed to mention in the T50 video where you felt the fan was overrated was the ride height -- the road car drives 5.5 inches off the ground so the venturi effect is not going to be anywhere near a race car. A race car like a DTM? I doubt if you could stick a finger underneath. What that does is, it makes the venturi effect and the role of the diffuser much, much stronger. That's where the fan really shows what it's got. A car like that is almost vacuumed to the ground. The fact that the T50s can get to 210 mph with almost twice its weight in downforce means it's remarkably aerodynamically efficient - for comparison, in a top speed run of the Senna, which makes much less downforce and more power, it got up to 170-180 mph easily, and then it hit a wall of drag and somehow just barely struggled past 200 mph. And you can't really drive that car well on the road - ride is super rough, the wing is a giant parachute, mpg is abysmal, getting the bottom scraped and damaging the vortex generators is too easy, R tires are useless in rain, and on and on it goes.

  • Simon Alexander Critchley

    Simon Alexander Critchley

    3 ай мурун

    The road car mass is quoted at 985kg(dry most likely),whereas you have listed the track car at 890kg,how was this further reduction achieved ? Or did I miss something ?

  • bmahoney1568

    bmahoney1568

    3 ай мурун

    Except you treated downforce as static, which it is not as it relates to speed. You didn’t even mention at what speed those quoted downforce numbers were for, which is important since manufacturers often quote downforce at different speeds and then to make comparisons you need to normalize downforce to a speed?

  • Nathan Aldrich

    Nathan Aldrich

    3 ай мурун

    That's literally the amg one, there's no t.50s this is ridiculous

  • Ian Stalker

    Ian Stalker

    3 ай мурун

    This ignores the fuel system won't work upside down. Also even dry sump oil system relies on gravity to get the oil to the scavenger pump. Gonna blow up quick.

  • Dr45120sharp Rothstein

    Dr45120sharp Rothstein

    4 ай мурун

    The kgf all over again .

  • amjan

    amjan

    4 ай мурун

    I'm disappointed that the car was not named "McLaren F0"

  • James

    James

    4 ай мурун

    So what I learned from this is to put these tires on a ford pinto and wreck havoc at the track

  • dhruv meena

    dhruv meena

    4 ай мурун

    so, sir gordon murray made a million dollar hotwheels, now we need a track for it

  • COMMENT

    COMMENT

    5 ай мурун

    So one can"t slipstream behind the T50s in racing.. it will blow you away

  • Shifty Malone

    Shifty Malone

    5 ай мурун

    Yes, Newtons. F = mg, mass multiplied by gravity. You'll need much more than an equal amount of downforce. About 9.81 times more, actually. For a car that weighs 890kg to drive upside down it would need OVER 8,730.9N of downforce,. Almost 9kN, maybe? Because, gravity...

  • Robert

    Robert

    5 ай мурун

    When is someone actually going o have the balls to drive a car upside down? Been hearing this for 20 years!

  • JESUS IS CALLING YOU

    JESUS IS CALLING YOU

    5 ай мурун

    This video reminds me of the theory of strapping a buttered slice of toast to the back of a cat.

  • ShionShinigami

    ShionShinigami

    5 ай мурун

    Gordon Murray simply schools hyped youtuber cars like the McLaren Senna, Aventador SVJ and whatever ugly edgy thing comes across with his T.50.

  • Luke David

    Luke David

    5 ай мурун

    So how does this compare to the valkyrie? That thing has some crazy numbers attached to it as well. We need to see those two going head to head around a track!

  • Donald Alm

    Donald Alm

    5 ай мурун

    Red bull needs one of these cars and do the upside-down stunt with it

  • Mike Coxmaul

    Mike Coxmaul

    5 ай мурун

    🤞

  • Gacheru Mburu

    Gacheru Mburu

    6 ай мурун

    👍

  • HeerYanus

    HeerYanus

    6 ай мурун

    I love your white board calculations as always.. but of course we can not really take the 'maximum downforce' for any speed.. so that circle calculation would become a bit more complicated, since Df really is also a function of v. edit: Or maybe you did take that into account but thought it would be to much of a mess for the board

  • J_Morris143

    J_Morris143

    6 ай мурун

    Agent Jay and Bruce Wayne did this already. Didn't they?

  • SeiFeOne

    SeiFeOne

    6 ай мурун

    May i ask: the cars dont have the given downforce numbers during standstill oder very low speeds. Guess those downforce numbers are at pretty high speeds, so they should be taken into consideration in that cornering calculation.

  • Bryan B

    Bryan B

    6 ай мурун

    But you didn't get into its antigravity device...found it in the other video, lol

  • علي العودة

    علي العودة

    6 ай мурун

    Boring videos I want once in my life before I die to watch them in full. I tried, but it's very difficult

  • Oven King

    Oven King

    6 ай мурун

    How much HP per LTR does a motorcycle make?

  • Manowits Wilken

    Manowits Wilken

    6 ай мурун

    Where does Jason live? Idaho, USA. Not Europe or Asia. Please drop all the Metric system. I'm sure those other parts of the globe has their own "Jasons".

  • Mihai Voiculescu

    Mihai Voiculescu

    6 ай мурун

    Michael Schumacher drove a Mercedes SLS AMG upside down in a tunnel in Germany in 2012

  • alexandre dubois

    alexandre dubois

    6 ай мурун

    Always pretty interesting ! In 1982 the Porsche 956 was supposed to be able to drive upside down as well ...

  • The Luminous One

    The Luminous One

    6 ай мурун

    it look like it belongs in the late 90s with the first Zonda

  • Nikhil Shibyal

    Nikhil Shibyal

    6 ай мурун

    We would prefer a practical

  • mills

    mills

    6 ай мурун

    The Nissan delta wing needs less downforce to carry high corner speeds. I wonder how they compare

  • DH 1399

    DH 1399

    6 ай мурун

    This video makes be wonder if there's any amount of aero lift that would offset rolling resistance for net positive efficiency improvements at highway speeds.

  • Radek Żukowski

    Radek Żukowski

    6 ай мурун

    I hate that the talk about downforce is missing the speed at which it is generated at.

  • Slade The Original

    Slade The Original

    6 ай мурун

    1 mile circle in 22 seconds, around 175mph.

  • Mark Chisholm

    Mark Chisholm

    6 ай мурун

    There are a number of road legal vehicles with engines more powerful per litre. Motorbikes. 200bhp per litre is the new baseline for superbikes.

  • John Clucas

    John Clucas

    6 ай мурун

    You have to make significant assumptions and simplifications to get produce your times round a circle. I accept that. However you are ignoring one signifcant factor. Downforce increases with the square of speed. So because the T50 is going (much) faster round the bend its downforce advantage will significantly greater than your figures show. The "Viper" probably will have less than its (assumed) 1.5g.

  • K2o

    K2o

    6 ай мурун

    Don't understand rant.. Its n/kg is metric..

  • datsuntoyy

    datsuntoyy

    7 ай мурун

    I've known a couple of people that have tried it with their cars. They don't recommend it.

  • Emily Simms

    Emily Simms

    7 ай мурун

    It looks like a 488/Huayra/McLaren F1/ Porsche Taycan. A beaut

  • Albert Gérard

    Albert Gérard

    7 ай мурун

    GMA T.50 makes 180 hp / L ?
    My truck makes 150 hp / 2.3 L

  • Kevin Burke

    Kevin Burke

    7 ай мурун

    Would this car have more effective downforce than the Chapparal 2J around corners? The 2J having those active skirts keeping the gap the same around turns(while I'm assuming body roll might have a play in the T50S lifting more on one side around corners?)

  • Ghosttown

    Ghosttown

    7 ай мурун

    I’d sell my soul to sit next to this guy in physics class

  • ealingj

    ealingj

    7 ай мурун

    It’ll be very interesting to see what this car can actually do on track.
    4 second advantage around a 1 mile track vs Viper ACR is nuts.
    Jason, please do a video on how this version of the T.50 has so much downforce when the calculation for the street version was not all that impressive. From the sketch, only the front splitter and the rear wing are substantially different? Maybe spit angle has something to do with it?

  • tummypierced

    tummypierced

    7 ай мурун

    Isn't it shooting pebbles out the back end? A fast vacuum with no bag.

    • Sum Randum Guy

      Sum Randum Guy

      Ай мурун

      Good point. On anything but a perfectly cleaned track it would be sucking in whatever crap is on the road and destroying its own fan blades

  • River Dreams

    River Dreams

    7 ай мурун

    Dude, you're a better instructor that my Physics tescher.

  • samscil

    samscil

    7 ай мурун

    "metric horsepower" 👌

  • Rob H

    Rob H

    7 ай мурун

    Lucan Iptoc it's Australia.

  • Magellanic SpaceClouds

    Magellanic SpaceClouds

    7 ай мурун

    Can you please do a video about a car going around a track vs a motorcycle? Speed, grip, acceleration, etc.

  • Scott Halliwell

    Scott Halliwell

    7 ай мурун

    Hey all, so why did it take to 1966 for F1's to get with the wing thing when they worked out elyptical and short wing areodynamics in WW2

  • Matt Johnson

    Matt Johnson

    7 ай мурун

    It seems like when designing for downforce, the aero drag coefficient would go up a lot...how is this not prohibitive to making the fastest/best track car?

  • leborde

    leborde

    7 ай мурун

    Thank you for the metric !!!

  • YEET

    YEET

    7 ай мурун

    Bruh what's your iq

  • MMM DDD

    MMM DDD

    7 ай мурун

    Just need a murray light car with suction cup tires to drive upside down.

  • deaderer 000

    deaderer 000

    7 ай мурун

    Road legal engine? I think you mean road legal car engine. Theres a few motorcycle engines out there that make more HP per liter

  • N H

    N H

    7 ай мурун

    Cool! And you’ll be upside down in your loan once you drive it off the lot!

  • Claud Reindl

    Claud Reindl

    7 ай мурун

    So, for some added excitement (and terrible accidents) some day we will see race tracks with 2 longitudinally twisted sections with an inverted section between!

  • Fixing W/ Friends

    Fixing W/ Friends

    7 ай мурун

    ...Don't you mean, it has enough _upforce_ to drive upside down?
    *oh, you made that comment. Fine Jason, fine... be like that.

  • Trash bag

    Trash bag

    7 ай мурун

    Does anybody have the spit trajectories of other supercars?

  • BLITZKRIEG

    BLITZKRIEG

    7 ай мурун

    Murray said he gives weights with fluids but no fuel

  • Anuj Sharma

    Anuj Sharma

    7 ай мурун

    Getting clean air out of oil filler cap when it is open,(blowby) is it ok ?? Petrol engine.

  • Kenny Hill

    Kenny Hill

    7 ай мурун

    Need a bumper sticker that reads " back off " I chew REDMAN , on the windshield

  • Ryan Villa Lopez

    Ryan Villa Lopez

    7 ай мурун

    I don’t want an inverted engine, it might spark something in another dimension there’s a movie out called “tenant”

  • douglas lamoureaux

    douglas lamoureaux

    7 ай мурун

    Simplified discussion about lateral grip. Lateral weight transfer in corners and tires working together by judicious use of spring rates and sway bars allow my Subaru to regularly pull, according to my datalogger, 1.5 gees peak in corners with no aero, on Bridgestone RE71Rs while autocrossing. I'm looking forward to trying the Yokohama A052 tires next season.

  • John Bond

    John Bond

    7 ай мурун

    My next thought on driving upside down with an internal combustion engine as a power plant, is lubrication failure from oil bieng affected by gravity. So could we consider an electric vehicle for this, or is the math now upside down.

  • jackywng123

    jackywng123

    7 ай мурун

    *FIA have left the chat*

  • Wim Woittiez

    Wim Woittiez

    7 ай мурун

    If you use systematically use the proper unit for force, the Newton, you don't have this funny multiplication by g. Of course, in the real world, kg is often used, but you are an engineering teacher! Might as well do things right!

  • marcel151

    marcel151

    7 ай мурун

    Porsche did make a car in 1982 which could do that, too. The 956 could drive upside down at 321.4 kph (199.8 mph).

  • TrevelyanOO6

    TrevelyanOO6

    7 ай мурун

    To be able to comfortably bank up the walls, what diameter/circumference would a tunnel have to have?
    What about the airflow in the tunnel affecting down force?
    If we’re going to do this, there are still some details to work through in another video.

  • Gordy Kilcollins

    Gordy Kilcollins

    7 ай мурун

    "Men lie, women lie, number DON'T" if THIS Dude says it, then it's worth a study

  • Kavinsky Smith

    Kavinsky Smith

    7 ай мурун

    Great now I'm thinking of Gordon Murray going, oh the Gumpert Appolo can drive up side down Eh?!, Well TAKE THIS! and mine doesnt look like an ugly lego blocks kit either!

  • DH Wardani

    DH Wardani

    7 ай мурун

    This is no different from people falling for how “great” the Tesla roadster is when they haven’t proved any of their claims w a real world prototype! Let stop babying companies for putting out the bare minimum of new design and applaud them when they actually get working production models to the public

  • Assorted Subscriptions

    Assorted Subscriptions

    7 ай мурун

    This is a fantastic channel

  • jay jay

    jay jay

    7 ай мурун

    So many videos about this car, can they just simply drive it?

  • TheLaimer

    TheLaimer

    7 ай мурун

    So IF you would really drive upside down:
    - the fuel pump(s) would run dry, because there's no fuel anymore on the bottom except it's some kind of balloon system
    - oil pressure would drop, even if it's a dry sump system, because the oil would move to the cylinder heads/pistons and
    - oil would flow out of the crankcase ventilation system
    - coolant and brake fluid circuits would suck in air
    - feel free to continue

    • Nafiz Ahmed Shafin

      Nafiz Ahmed Shafin

      7 ай мурун

      Yeah, that's the thing of thinking.😟😟

  • espo8798

    espo8798

    7 ай мурун

    I remember the Saleen S7 accomplished this like 20 years ago

  • SHIFTY

    SHIFTY

    7 ай мурун

    Wow. So can s a lot of other, better cars

  • glenn alexon

    glenn alexon

    7 ай мурун

    The T.50S can drive upside down? Too bad you didn't have a camera with you... Oh, you're guessing, and the car doesn't exist? Cool clickbait, dude.

  • S2000Y

    S2000Y

    7 ай мурун

    And until someone does it..........

  • enricio

    enricio

    7 ай мурун

    That's a long time since I heard about GMD. 🤓. I wondered if this genius was out of business. 🙃

  • Balafoutre

    Balafoutre

    7 ай мурун

    Ahh....maths+physics.....and the people are fixated on sex.....!!! If you know Sir Gordon Murray , he is that good...because he is all analog.... He calculates on paper and pen....!!! Can you believe that!!!

  • Capital Diaz

    Capital Diaz

    7 ай мурун

    “Hopefully you make it” ever the optimist I see 😂

  • Alex Beattie

    Alex Beattie

    7 ай мурун

    I put Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on my charger scat pack and it made a world of a difference. It almost feels like a sports car instead of a big heavy sedan. I can toss it around confidently with so much cornering grip now. It takes a lot to oversteer even when I am heavy footed into a slow corner. I also shed half a second on my 0-60 time from 4.4 to 3.9.

  • 1CrazySnake

    1CrazySnake

    7 ай мурун

    BEAST! Nice car. I just got a 2020 GT500 I Love your work. I just started a channel give me a follow =-)

  • Sebastian MARCIANO

    Sebastian MARCIANO

    7 ай мурун

    Overhyped

  • Cam

    Cam

    7 ай мурун

    You know what, we just need to stop "talking" about this but, instead, actually build a hot wheels ramp to test these theories...

  • On Wheels

    On Wheels

    7 ай мурун

    A µ of 1.2 isn't really a very sticky tyre/road combination. A racing slick on a rubbered in track has 1.9-2.0. And about the grip formula: µ decreases with vertical load.

  • Geoffrey McKenzie

    Geoffrey McKenzie

    7 ай мурун

    In order for a car to drive upside down wouldn't it require a inverted fuel and oil pump?

  • Snahl Hug

    Snahl Hug

    7 ай мурун

    MIB tunnel scene, here we go!

  • Lowbvll

    Lowbvll

    7 ай мурун

    Is it me or does the front end kinda resemble the mclaren f1? Lol