The Volkswagen ID.4 Is A Disappointing Electric Car (For Now)

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2021 VW ID.4 Review - Driving Volkswagen's Electric SUV For The Masses
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Volkswagen says the ID.4 is their most important vehicle launch since the Beetle. That's big shoes to fill! This long-range all electric vehicle is competing in a highly sought after market, and America's latest crave: the crossover. The ID.4 features 250 miles of range with a 82 kWh battery pack (77 kWh useable), 201 HP and 229 lb-ft of torque, and RWD. The permanent magnet synchronous motor spins up to 16,000 RPM!
It all sounds very exciting, but unfortunately the ID.4 feels like it has come a bit short on the promise of bring "electric cars to the millions, not the millionaires." Even with the $7,500 tax credit, the starting price of nearly $40,000 is still a tad high. Especially considering the AWD variants will easily push to $50k with options. But the bigger disappointments come from the current charging system: Electrify America. You'd think charging and navigating a VW on VW's own funded and created network would be seamless, but for now, it's anything but. Check out the video for all the details.
I spoke with a Volkswagen representative who informed me "Plug & Charge" as well as auto-navigation on the Electrify America network will be included as updates later this year, likely in the fall timeframe.
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  • LukasFragas Jasinskas

    LukasFragas Jasinskas

    16 мүнөт мурун

    Finally not paid and genuine review. How i know other reviews are trash? They have only pros and no cons.
    Even Tesla has cons and this is VW.

  • Trout Trout

    Trout Trout

    Саат мурун

    This car just dies not work for me.

  • Lars-Petter Meyer Bedin

    Lars-Petter Meyer Bedin

    2 саат мурун

    There should be a choose only Electrify America chargers only,in the options for choosing chargers on a trip.

  • Julian Lindley

    Julian Lindley

    3 саат мурун

    Really useful video - thanks for posting

  • Liemciemdk89

    Liemciemdk89

    4 саат мурун

    pass on ev for at least another 20yrs

  • Wild Atlantic Man

    Wild Atlantic Man

    6 саат мурун

    Looks like we go for the Mustang....

  • Luciano Bongiorni

    Luciano Bongiorni

    6 саат мурун

    12:00 thank God someone is touching this point, thanks. Cars should have more fun colors. I love yellow, dark blue, and dark green cars. It would be nice if these were regular options

  • DooMMasteR

    DooMMasteR

    8 саат мурун

    No heat pump on the ID.4 in the US?
    In Europe it is available with a CO2 heat-pump system.

  • Finian Small

    Finian Small

    12 саат мурун

    @EngineeringExplained, while I think matter-of-fact car reviews are worthwhile, in in this case, very good, I wonder if we can get more of a spotlight on the engineering itself.
    For instance, I have no clue what makes a car battery a battery, and I’m sure there’s a lot of interesting developments in that tech you could break down for us.
    Do you think your audience has the appetite for more “nerding out” videos?

  • Christopher Hamilton

    Christopher Hamilton

    13 саат мурун

    Wow how... unimpressive. I’d rather buy a used Leaf Plus. Oh and could I even buy one now if I wanted one? Nope.
    Thanks for (almost) nothing VW. Still waiting on the return of diesel, huh?

  • Deep F. Value

    Deep F. Value

    13 саат мурун

    WoopsWagon.

  • baritone broker

    baritone broker

    16 саат мурун

    I will never forgive VW and those sneaky bastards for “Diesel-Gate”. That’s my AIR they were messing with, intentionally deceitful. Traded in my Audi and bought a Tesla, I’m done with VW/Audi/Porsche, I’ll never trust them again. Bite me. ID4 is hideous and the range blows. I’ll stick with my model 3 LR and 350 miles of range. Dumkopf.

  • Deutsche _

    Deutsche _

    22 саат мурун

    When electronics can be updated, the item was never made finnished in the first place.. new world 2021 crap directly from the factories...

  • Ronald Thibodeau

    Ronald Thibodeau

    Күн мурун

    had more than my share of german cars and now so done with there over complicating EVERYTHING!

  • Moth Monma Poppa Bobba Fett Mane III

    Moth Monma Poppa Bobba Fett Mane III

    Күн мурун

    lol they put play and pause on the pedals lolol.

  • Daemon Can

    Daemon Can

    Күн мурун

    They should have put NFC in both the handle and the charge port.

  • Nick !!

    Nick !!

    Күн мурун

    The *built in* navigation sending you to a 7.2kw charger was stunning

  • AP

    AP

    Күн мурун

    When an organisation fills all the product managers who are basically MBA's without user experience or technical knowledge on how to build simple solutions. This is the most common problem in large enterprises where middle and upper management is simply trying to build products just to show their presence for the hefty paychecks they take home. When someone in organisation questions their move , that person is made to leave the organization in some months.

  • Pete Ruckelshaus

    Pete Ruckelshaus

    Күн мурун

    I would love for my next car to be an electric, however (IMO) until there is one universal charging interface for vehicles, there will be a barrier to EV uptake.

  • Rick James

    Rick James

    Күн мурун

    Pass

  • golan

    golan

    Күн мурун

    european companies are too arrogant... they still don't understand that they're no longer competitive.

  • Rick James

    Rick James

    Күн мурун

    VW can’t even make a reliable gas powered car.

  • Olle Ahnlund

    Olle Ahnlund

    Күн мурун

    Heat pump seems to be included in Europe.

  • rob allen

    rob allen

    Күн мурун

    Yeah, most modern tech is disappointing, never anywhere near as good as they pretend it to be

  • Chris Patterson

    Chris Patterson

    Күн мурун

    Wtf this review has almost NOTHING to do with the actual ID.4 car. Lots of complaints about the charging network and the app. Clickbait titling. Skip to about the midpoint of the video where actual info about the car begins.

  • zz z

    zz z

    Күн мурун

    “A little bit scandal with diesel”, LOL

  • Ganesh Akella

    Ganesh Akella

    Күн мурун

    One word for these cars and their makers - “tesla wannabes”.
    Point is if you are getting “inspired” by tesla and its network atleast do it right.!

  • Paulo Almeida

    Paulo Almeida

    Күн мурун

    What a piece of BS!!! You are literally the only person on youtube giving a negative note to the ID.4!!

  • ted101975

    ted101975

    Күн мурун

    Some other channels complain about how bad the mustang charging on ea network

  • Nick Eckemoff

    Nick Eckemoff

    Күн мурун

    I think you ignored the most important part. The ID4 is a well designed car that anyone can drive and be comfortable in, but the Tesla is well... a Tesla (aka, poorly designed interior and exterior and funky driving dynamics). Oh and the bias that you own a Model 3 as YOUR car wasn't made more clear.

  • Noah Blunt

    Noah Blunt

    Күн мурун

    working on a Volkswagen is full of tedious nonsence

  • Ian Benson

    Ian Benson

    Күн мурун

    Thanks! VW off my list.

    • Tracy Jewett

      Tracy Jewett

      16 саат мурун

      Drive one yourself. This review is assinine.

  • Kayz!

    Kayz!

    Күн мурун

    Strange thing with the charging. Works perfectly where I live (the Netherlands). Plug it in and it charges. Just like Tesla. Simple.
    Setting the car to B is pretty much one pedal driving to be honest... it just doesn't hit the brakes (fortunately!).
    All buttons on the steering wheel also support slide gestures which works just fine. And you can most certainly lower all windows simultaneously.... love this video, but it could've used a bit more research before making claims about things not working that actually do work.

  • Vikram Kasinathan

    Vikram Kasinathan

    Күн мурун

    The reason why you need to unlock using keyfob may be to prevent anyone from disconnecting the charging plug while you are away from the car. Possible?

  • Jake Takahashi

    Jake Takahashi

    Күн мурун

    You mean a German car company designed something complicated? You don't say!

  • Rade Ilioski

    Rade Ilioski

    Күн мурун

    GG Volkswagen

  • Willie Neukem

    Willie Neukem

    Күн мурун

    Type 1, Type 2, CCS, CHAdeMO, Tesla has their own proprietary chargers and probably they're others used somewhere I have no idea about. The point is there is no official mandated standardization. Yes, tech arguments over most efficient, power delivery, voltage, amps, yadaya..Aside from the 300 mile range brick wall, the standard charging system is the elephant in the room. In my dinosaur juice drinking relic I can drive essentially worldwide. Why? because gas nozzles are international size diameter in order to- you guessed it - make automobiles saleable. Without trying I have my choice from Amaco to whatever starts with Z and it all burns the same and I dont have to be an Electrical engineer to make sense of it. Established carmakers/oil companies are well aware of this and will fog the E-car landscape for as long as possible to preserve their established business models for as long as possible. China has already set a Beijing mandated standard. The US Government will soon have to either adopt theirs or mandate a standard of our own like it does with airbags, seatbelts, headlights and emissions (hello VW).

  • DesdichadoDK

    DesdichadoDK

    2 күн мурун

    Terrible reviewer. Claims the car is disappointing, then spends 60% of the review rambling about the charging network, which 90% of the owners will never use, since the entire idea of an EV is you charge at home.
    Also, terrible research. The charging process is very different in the EU where the ID.4 is also much better equipped, ie. with AR HUD and a heat pump.
    But sure, you get more clicks this way.

  • loufaolla

    loufaolla

    2 күн мурун

    Really wanted to enjoy this video - but reviewer was so whiny I couldn’t deal and had to bail.

  • Marc E

    Marc E

    2 күн мурун

    Wow. You're the first reviewer to point this out about the charger network. This is such a missed opportunity for this car.

  • ncdv47

    ncdv47

    2 күн мурун

    Touch controls in a car? No. Just...no. I absolutely hate the touch controls in my Honda. I have to take my eyes off the road to adjust the climate control or infotainment system. Just give me switches and knobs that I can feel!!

  • D B

    D B

    2 күн мурун

    Your reviewer has ZERO idea

  • Dara M

    Dara M

    2 күн мурун

    Does it come with a drivers’ whinge bag?

  • Terry Rodbourn

    Terry Rodbourn

    2 күн мурун

    It’s funny to me it tittles me that even Volkswagens can’t proper charging their own EVs!

  • Moultonlava Gaming

    Moultonlava Gaming

    2 күн мурун

    I've seen if You buy this you get 3 year electric charging for free

  • Adrian Barkuş

    Adrian Barkuş

    2 күн мурун

    I charged at EA station yesterday like this: plug in, select "member" on the station screen, tap my phone on the station, and it started charging. So they must have significantly improved it in the last few weeks. Looking forward to plug and charge though.

  • Vince Ryder

    Vince Ryder

    2 күн мурун

    Holy inadequate software Batman!

  • mallow610

    mallow610

    2 күн мурун

    Just a quick 10 hour charging stop lmao

  • Endoe Kronic

    Endoe Kronic

    2 күн мурун

    You spent more time on complaining about the charging then anything else... I lost interest!!

  • Endoe Kronic

    Endoe Kronic

    2 күн мурун

    So, in conclusion: Buy a tesla!!

  • Nøderak

    Nøderak

    3 күн мурун

    11:09 Tesla would have been massacred if they did this. Do they not know i like being able to put all my windows up and down at the same time.

    • Nøderak

      Nøderak

      2 күн мурун

      @Adrian Barkuş Im glad they at least did that. I wonder if an aftermarket fix of putting a standard VW window controller panel in will appear, if the wire hookups are the same.

    • Adrian Barkuş

      Adrian Barkuş

      2 күн мурун

      You can, hold the rear button for 3s and now it controls them all. A little wacky but usable.

  • Nøderak

    Nøderak

    3 күн мурун

    its short a hundred horse.

  • 7z9

    7z9

    3 күн мурун

    You seriously believe VW wants people to buy EVs? Dude!

  • Axel Meierhoefer

    Axel Meierhoefer

    3 күн мурун

    Great video. Would have loved to hear you address the range. discussing percentage charging times when one gives you 150 miles and another gives you 200 miles at similar percentages could be misleading

  • sots_ 666

    sots_ 666

    3 күн мурун

    German engineering at its best...🤣😂🤣

  • Deepak Raj Purushothaman

    Deepak Raj Purushothaman

    3 күн мурун

    Probably the first unpaid VW ID review. Maybe they are getting ready for another sandal. This time an electric vehicle scandal. The supplier for this car compromised so much. This car can burst any time and will be up in flames. When i was working for this supplier. I was asked.. Are you gonna buy this. I said NOOOO

  • M Mullen

    M Mullen

    4 күн мурун

    It doesn't sound like it compares well with the EV competition but a more apt comparison would be: How does it compare to the gasoline competition?

  • racepnd

    racepnd

    4 күн мурун

    Really liked this video but giving up now with all the commercials wrecked it totally.

  • blueazona

    blueazona

    4 күн мурун

    Thank you for this. Shame on VW.

  • Reddylion

    Reddylion

    4 күн мурун

    Good electric car with some or many glitches... which it should iron out soon.....,

  • Michael Moorrees

    Michael Moorrees

    4 күн мурун

    Solve this calculus problem before you can use our product !
    Every car has a unique VIN. That info can be relayed thru the charge cable, or wireless. That way you know who to charge for the charge. Its not rocket science.

  • D M

    D M

    4 күн мурун

    This is absolutely absurd. It takes 30 seconds to use the app. Is it less convenient sure, but most people are used to pumping gas which takes just as long. The gps not giving faster chargers is a legitimate criticism.

  • Hersh C

    Hersh C

    4 күн мурун

    WHAT A WHINER! WHO puts down all four windows at the same time. What a friggin joke.

    • Hersh C

      Hersh C

      3 саат мурун

      @Fred Planatia I can think of scenarios: bees swarming the car, dust cloud billowing from truck in front, stench of skunk, or cow farm. It just doesn’t happen often enough to be a credible top 20 issue. Wheel, powered travel, IC engine, safe cars, good roads, beautiful women. These are things that make travel better. Who gives a frig that you had to engage two fewer fingers!

    • Fred Planatia

      Fred Planatia

      Күн мурун

      Put 'em up all at the same time 'cause you're leaving the car, there's smoke in a tunnel, its starting to rain. etc etc. But I agree he does seem whiny. Partly its because he keeps repeating his critique over and over. Could have said the same thing in half the time.

  • Justin

    Justin

    4 күн мурун

    VW, please get back to Passat. You're not ready for this yet.

  • mjkmob

    mjkmob

    5 күн мурун

    Just buy the Ford Mach E ;)

  • Signet Royal

    Signet Royal

    5 күн мурун

    Quit haten breh we still making changes at my work

  • Frank Wiersma

    Frank Wiersma

    5 күн мурун

    You are comparing a 39k car (ID.4) to a 64k (Tesla Model Y) car. Of course you can expect extras for 25k more.

  • problematic polarbear

    problematic polarbear

    5 күн мурун

    Thats it for me. I will have a serious look at electric cars in about 10 to 15 years when it is halfway out of the pre alpha state and at at least 30% of the current price.

  • jdear97

    jdear97

    5 күн мурун

    The ID.4 is also pretty inefficient compared to the Model Y. With similar sized batteries, the Model Y will go 50 miles further on a full charge. The 20% better efficiency and the much more effective navigation of the Tesla to charging stops are huge advantages for the Tesla over the VW.

  • gaae2000

    gaae2000

    5 күн мурун

    You use the App because thats how you get your free charge! for the first 3-years.

    • Hersh C

      Hersh C

      4 күн мурун

      The dude is just a complainer.

  • MortenB0

    MortenB0

    5 күн мурун

    Just asking, have you tried "just plug in" a Mach-E ? Many have, with extreme slow start, loads of errors, charging stopping with handshake with car many times during each charging session. Mach-E is not like a Tesla. Just ask "Out of Spec" Kyle.

  • Dantzig

    Dantzig

    5 күн мурун

    Me watching this video, then watching Teslabjørn's reviews of the ID.4. They cannot both be right and I trust Bjørn.

    • Paulo Almeida

      Paulo Almeida

      Күн мурун

      I just mentioned that above ... this guy is literally the only person on youtube giving a negative note to the ID.4!! He's just a tesla fanatic

  • nicholas dean

    nicholas dean

    6 күн мурун

    Why is electrify America so expensive? I thought electric was supposed to save money on gas. But it costs as much as my 2001 Cherokee for distance cost. (2.7ish for 19 miles)

  • Hermann Brummer

    Hermann Brummer

    6 күн мурун

    From minute one it would have been possible to completely avoid any authorization prozess as the charger is already connected to the internet and OF COURSE every electric car is communicating with the charger.
    So the Tesla solution to simply plug in was right from the start the only way to do it.
    Crazy and amazing failure of the complete competition.
    Tesla can relax as their competition cannot even get the basics right.

  • K L

    K L

    6 күн мурун

    VW is disappointing because they can't use any software cheats to inflate numbers any longer. Let them burn while they play catch up to the rest of the world.

  • yeojr11

    yeojr11

    6 күн мурун

    You have to do the same at a gas station. if you cant open an app and do a few simple steps to charge then you shouldn't be driving

  • Juhana Siren

    Juhana Siren

    6 күн мурун

    3:22 How I fill up my 2018 gas car: Pull up. Open app. Select location (usually the app suggests the right one). Select pump (check number on the pump). Confirm payment. Open gas cap, insert nozzle, press trigger until tank is full. Return nozzle, close gas cap, drive away.
    I think I'm capable of charging a Volkswagen.

  • B Blutarsky

    B Blutarsky

    6 күн мурун

    Very thorough look at this car. We're looking at buying the upgraded pro model toward the end of the year. Interested to see what the extra 100 horses and awd will do.

  • Cameron Scott

    Cameron Scott

    7 күн мурун

    6:20 "It should just work" reminds me of Bethesda lol. Electrify America when they say "it just works!" (insert Fallout76 glitching meme)

  • Robert Parent

    Robert Parent

    7 күн мурун

    Very impartial honest opinion as always. Thanks for this great report.
    Special request for you.
    Can you make something about that new trend....the 800V charging?
    I know ohms law but and know that any battery is limited in voltage and amps when charging....so I just don't get a why an 800V x Y amps configuration could do faster than a 400V x 2Y amps one?

  • Martin Lang

    Martin Lang

    7 күн мурун

    Excellent report VW are now off my list too.
    Such a shame.
    I agree, one pedal is very nice.

  • TheEmrobe

    TheEmrobe

    7 күн мурун

    The thing i don't understand about electric cars - When you pay 30-50.000 dollars for a car that's already based entirely on SOC's, why does it come with a 5 dollar cpu that makes every bit infotainment so sluggish it's essentially useless? It baffles me.

  • TheGgg22

    TheGgg22

    7 күн мурун

    Just buy a Tesla

  • Ali Günel

    Ali Günel

    7 күн мурун

    It might have handshake problem with Electrify America charge stations but that car has driven 440km/274mi in cold Norwegian whether. But honest opinion, no one can beat Tesla’s infotainment system/software.

  • Tuskinsaat Tietää

    Tuskinsaat Tietää

    7 күн мурун

    Seems that in Finland factory setup is different (eg heat pump is included) I am sure software issues are still same since VW has reported that they have challenges with software. The main reason I choose Enyaq over ID.4/ID.3 were related to their look, driving and interior. Platform itself is same, but Enyaqs overall feeling and setup felt more solid. BTW, I am still shocked how loud 100k Tesla is compared its cheaper competition. I am also bit worried of Teslas attitude, especially when it comes to maintenance.

  • Toon Pouwels

    Toon Pouwels

    8 күн мурун

    VW is 5 years behind Tesla

  • xianshep

    xianshep

    8 күн мурун

    I sat in one of these "First Editions" the other day and was horrified by the cheap interior: the same scratch-tastic plastic all over the doors as in my lowly Jetta. Mach E's interior is a whole class nicer.

  • Black Sheep EV

    Black Sheep EV

    8 күн мурун

    Amen one pedal driving is life✌️

  • Black Sheep EV

    Black Sheep EV

    8 күн мурун

    I agree with you, it could be way simpler. Also the fact that you must subscribe to every single charger company is kind of annoying but when you plan your trip with Abetterrouteplanner app it makes things wayyyy smoother

  • Black Sheep EV

    Black Sheep EV

    8 күн мурун

    Everyone are having issues with EA and EC (electrify canada). I found that with my Bolt ev ChargePoint and circuit électrique Quebec were wayyyy more reliable

  • Greg James

    Greg James

    8 күн мурун

    What a waste of a video

  • The KosH Plays

    The KosH Plays

    8 күн мурун

    10 years until ev are decent cars

  • Skylar Taylor-Barrick

    Skylar Taylor-Barrick

    8 күн мурун

    this guy could've just swiped a credit card in the station, but instead he did all of this and made a 20 minute video whining about it

  • Alan Horn

    Alan Horn

    8 күн мурун

    If there are some, er, copper linings to this:
    If the charging setup is the biggest complaint, it must be good for a BEV
    If the car makes you use your phone, it might mean the car allows for the possibility that the car might not know exactly where you are

  • pauld315

    pauld315

    8 күн мурун

    I have seen many Youtube videos that show a lot of problems with using EA on a Mustang Mach - E also.

  • avenuePad

    avenuePad

    9 күн мурун

    Interesting. I just saw a video giving this car high praise.

  • Black Baron

    Black Baron

    9 күн мурун

    ☠️BLACK BARON☠️ 6:08 Who tells me that America is not pissing Germans off if they invested all that money to create this non-E-lon charging network in America? VW! PLUG-PLAY! Software developers! Make it SIMPLE! Every e-car has a serial number developers! What's the problem when every electrifying America is connected to a mainframe?

  • Nicolae Crefelean

    Nicolae Crefelean

    9 күн мурун

    Dude... who the hell designed that charging logic, the accounting department?!

  • Joseph Beyer

    Joseph Beyer

    9 күн мурун

    Thanks for a very well done review of the car. I've been curious about the ID.4 but am much less so now. You mentioned that many of the shortcomings can and may be fixed with updates but which ones?! As the saying goes, "you only get one chance to make a first impression". I'll be looking for an electric car that doesn't mandate the use of my phone to get a charge into it. Also the navigation looks ridiculous...charging takes longer than the trip!

  • Henry Liu

    Henry Liu

    9 күн мурун

    That lag lol