Was The SSC Tuatara 331 MPH World Record Run Real?

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What Really Happened During The SSC Tuatara Record Run? Can It Go 331 MPH?
Shmee's 331 MPH Run Analysis - kglove.info/sun/video/a5zCtqtnwKuLw2Y.html
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How Fast Is The "331 MPH" SSC Tuatara Really? This video will focus on three questions: 1) What do we know about the SSC Tuatara world record controversy? 2) How fast did the SSC Tuatara actually drive - was the 331 mph GPS speed accurate? 3) How fast can the SSC Tuatara go based on the specifications? We'll do some easy-to-understand calculus to understand how far the Tuatara actually drove based on the video, and use that to determine what the possible explanations are. In preparation for this video, I spoke with Jerod Shelby of SSC, Dewetron (the GPS company), Driven Studios (video production company), Oliver Webb (the driver of the run), and Shmee (the channel that explained the controversy to the masses). Check out the video for all the details!
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Related Videos:
Top Gear 331 MPH Run - kglove.info/sun/video/hmqTrMqBqcp7lZ0.html
360 Camera 331 MPH Run - kglove.info/sun/video/hoemj7aHrcaqx4c.html
Shmee's 331 MPH Run Analysis - kglove.info/sun/video/a5zCtqtnwKuLw2Y.html
Misha's Analysis - kglove.info/sun/video/nouvtK91y8CguXc.html
Jerod Shelby's Video Statement - kglove.info/sun/video/eqrEzrNk2KhqvWo.html
Robert Mitchell's Follow Up Statement - kglove.info/sun/video/nX2jj7xnrqarzqU.html
Julian Thomas's Data Analysis - kglove.info/sun/video/opfWttmBxNKSuoM.html
Related Links:
1. SSC 10/19 Press Release - World Record Run
www.sscnorthamerica.com/news/ssc-tuatara-hypercar-earns-worlds-fastest-production-vehicle-title
2. SSC 10/26 Press Release - GPS Validation
www.sscnorthamerica.com/news/dewetron-validates-ssc-tuatara-record-top-speed
3. DEWETRON 10/28 Statement - (On front page, link not available).
www.dewetron.com
4. SSC 10/28 Press Release - The Good News: We Did It
www.sscnorthamerica.com/news/jerod-shelby-explains-world-record
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  • Engineering Explained

    Engineering Explained

    5 ай мурун

    I know us YouTubers say this all too often, but please watch all the way through! This story actually developed amidst my filming of this video, so the video will walk you through everything that happened, and at the end I get some answers to my remaining questions. Thanks for watching!

    • Petr Svetr

      Petr Svetr

      Ай мурун

      @Hybrid Life I ment he should have said that explicitly in the end instead of trying to be polite (or affraid of lawsuit:-D

    • Hybrid Life

      Hybrid Life

      2 ай мурун

      @Petr Svetr He very clearly showed the answer to be that the run was fast, but not nearly as fast as claimed. Calculus doesn't lie about anything, much less simple things like time and distance.

    • Renato Maniago

      Renato Maniago

      4 ай мурун

      @MrRadicalMoves I use 0.028 for 338 mph.

    • Jeff0500

      Jeff0500

      4 ай мурун

      @The Ranter That was the point of comparing it to the AGR.

    • Jey Cee

      Jey Cee

      4 ай мурун

      @Engineering Explained Now do the reverse calculation of crank power in Stradmans video where the Tuatara is on full power @9:40-9:54, sound->rpm->speed, from known transmission and tires, now feed your sheet and you will notice power is well under half of what SSC claim. Now go back and do your homework, for this week: Don't ever trust numbers given to you by someone known for lying! Frontal area is another one easy to debunk, the front view is in the gps overlay, use it to calculate real frontal area instead of the made up numbers SSC feed us.

  • chris britton

    chris britton

    3 күн мурун

    could this all be solved with one man standing at the highest speed point with a radar gun?????

  • Justin Higgins

    Justin Higgins

    5 күн мурун

    Wheel and tire diameter affect the final drive ratio. You can have a 10 to 1 gear ratio with a 30 inch wheel, tire your still high geared.

    • John Smith

      John Smith

      4 күн мурун

      Yeah, just have a tachometer display and a camera showing the wheel rotations.

  • Lucas A

    Lucas A

    11 күн мурун

    Still waiting for the re-do...

  • Abdullah33 Alenize

    Abdullah33 Alenize

    12 күн мурун

    💩💩

  • V DeLeon

    V DeLeon

    14 күн мурун

    So Shmee is wrong!

  • Ugrasrava

    Ugrasrava

    Ай мурун

    Math really isn't my strong suit, but you have an excellent manner of presenting data and helping me understand it despite that. Massive props, that isn't an easy thing to do.

  • Bill Kong

    Bill Kong

    Ай мурун

    Tesla's gonna have a tough job making the roadster the "fastest car in the world period"

  • Bill Kong

    Bill Kong

    Ай мурун

    simplest explanation is the time scaling is off. Everything got played back a little slow so our calculated distance is too long.

  • R.C. Collins

    R.C. Collins

    Ай мурун

    Plausible Deniability mode engaged.

  • Jerry B.

    Jerry B.

    Ай мурун

    Who ma
    Who makes this car and where

  • White Lion

    White Lion

    Ай мурун

    This didn't aged well 🤦

  • Erwin Estrada-jr

    Erwin Estrada-jr

    2 ай мурун

    soo did they end up witha verified run?? no follow up 3 months later?

  • neil mchardy

    neil mchardy

    2 ай мурун

    No they didn’t. Bit like the Budweiser rocket which claimed to break the sound barrier but with any accepted scrutiny or timekeeping. All without a sonic boom.

  • Corazon del Oro

    Corazon del Oro

    2 ай мурун

    In RE gearing, you need to adjust for tire growth at high speed.

  • L. Thill

    L. Thill

    2 ай мурун

    but how fast can it get me to the 7-11 for a slurpee

  • Spetsnaz

    Spetsnaz

    2 ай мурун

    Amerika - the land of the fake it if you cant make it.

  • Soudthixay Svk

    Soudthixay Svk

    2 ай мурун

    ให้มีแปลภาษาไทยหน่อยครับลูกพี่

  • Asad Inayat

    Asad Inayat

    2 ай мурун

    sooooo in other words SSC could reach a speed of 345 but that isn't too valid because of their credibility so I'd say the Chiron supersport is still the speed champion

  • Donovan C. Young

    Donovan C. Young

    2 ай мурун

    Them: We have the data to show this is real.
    Us: Can you provide the data so we can verify it?
    Them: No.
    Us: Thank you for playing, NEXT!

  • Craig Worland

    Craig Worland

    2 ай мурун

    Too be Fair now they have tried twice and failed twice.

  • LiveLife TasteDeath

    LiveLife TasteDeath

    3 ай мурун

    Moral of the story, trust but verify,

  • David Daimary

    David Daimary

    3 ай мурун

    It did hit 240 on Stradman's channel in 5th. Two more gears to go so....

  • mjs28s

    mjs28s

    3 ай мурун

    Why are we relying on the equpiment in the car for the speed?
    Why are there not say ten different speed traps along each stretch of road?
    It is pretty simple to time a car across a 66 foot distance, like in drag racing. The car breaks a beam and a timer starts. The car then breaks a second beam and the timer stops. The distance between beams is know, thus you get the car's average speed over a short distance. If they want to be more precise just shorten the length of the speed trap to minimize any additional acceleration in either direction.
    All this GPS tracking, car instruments, etc. should only be used as a verification tool and not as the main validation method.

  • Ayan Dutta

    Ayan Dutta

    3 ай мурун

    Great video, I have also seen Jesko Absolut's video. While calculating the theoretical top speed of SSC Tuatara the transmission efficiency taken is 0.94 but for Agera RS the efficiency was 0.94*0.93 so taking that 0.93 into account and also 70Kg driver's weight Top speed is coming 337mph and taking the same conditions (Air density, Rolling Resistance, and Trans. efficiency) Jesko is giving 331.25 mph (533kph), though Jesko Absolut has less Cd, downforce, and mass, that 110kW extra power of SSC Tuatara will surpass the Jesko. in the top speed test. If Jesko had this 110kW more power it can achieve a top speed of 346.73 mph. Looking into the theoretical calculation, SSC Tuatara can beat 331mph as well.

  • Jonathan Schrader

    Jonathan Schrader

    3 ай мурун

    i hope ur math is on point.. I believe the car can and did and will do it again... I believe in u too.. impressive simple math.. u kick ass

    • TheChzoronzon

      TheChzoronzon

      14 күн мурун

      I have bad news for you, man: you really can't belive two thing directly in contradiction, at the same time... unless you work forSSC, that's it

  • terminatort2t800

    terminatort2t800

    3 ай мурун

    Teacher: "Train A, traveling 40 mph, leaves Westford heading toward Eastford, 260 miles away. One hour after Train A leaves Westford, Train B, traveling 70 mph, leaves Eastford heading toward Westford. When do the two trains meet?"
    Jason: Pulls out white board....
    This guy must have killed it in algebra

  • Richard Hammer

    Richard Hammer

    3 ай мурун

    So this translated to 251.2mph, before it began to disintegrate lol

  • Michele Peraro

    Michele Peraro

    3 ай мурун

    1:11

  • Tracy C

    Tracy C

    3 ай мурун

    Fantastic.

  • Common Tater

    Common Tater

    3 ай мурун

    The Love Boat, soon will be making another run.
    This car, probably not.

  • Qohen Leth

    Qohen Leth

    3 ай мурун

    It's okay to pause for a second or two now and then.

  • Adrian Untalan

    Adrian Untalan

    3 ай мурун

    Look at the bright side, you are a lot less likely to get a speeding ticket with the speedometer reading higher than actuality.

  • Matt M

    Matt M

    3 ай мурун

    Bugatti Bolide?

  • Old men rule racing

    Old men rule racing

    3 ай мурун

    Nevada is pronounced like short a in cat

  • Apis4

    Apis4

    3 ай мурун

    But you cannot even guess the theoretical top speed based only on those factors..... I mean you can, if you couch it as totally theoretical, but if you couch it as potential.... which this video seems to do, you are in a world of problems.
    Tyres: What are their tolerances.
    Temperatures: How are you controlling them.
    Pressures: How are they regulated
    ....f*ck it... this list will be a hundred points long if I list everything.
    They already tried and rerun and failed because of elements like this though,.... temperatures I believe.
    These guys faked it so badly, and they will need to provide the details regarding the science and engineering behind the individual failure points/elements, of the car, to ever realistically be considered to even have a "Theoretical" top speed of anything close to 350 mph.

  • b gg

    b gg

    3 ай мурун

    Definitely no election meddling

  • RagingBlast2Fan

    RagingBlast2Fan

    3 ай мурун

    We're not trying to figure out if it was possible for the record to have been broken. The burden is on them to release unedited footage, or have independent observers there to observe the validity of the record. Their run is obviously invalid regardless of the mere possibility that it was broken. I might do whatever I want in my room, but to claim that I broke a record I would need to have and provide proof of it sufficient to satisfy a reasonable person, otherwise we're doing a disservice to not only to the current record holder, but also to anyone who is contending for the title in the future.

  • Jason

    Jason

    3 ай мурун

    Thusly, according to my calculations... Henceforth, therefore and what have you...

  • Pete Rivero

    Pete Rivero

    3 ай мурун

    Go to the salts flats for records. Simple?

  • A smart guy Codename47

    A smart guy Codename47

    3 ай мурун

    I think it's 331 kmph, 🤣🤣🤣

  • robert köhn

    robert köhn

    3 ай мурун

    They used a finaldrive of 3.454. Compare other videos off ssc like "brutal acceleration" or when stradman joined in the cabine and hitted 242mph. There yoy also see the rev of engine.

  • Notyo Info

    Notyo Info

    3 ай мурун

    You're freaking amazing dude 😁 thanks and keep it up! I'll be watching for that second run & more videos-:)

  • Hafizh Gozali

    Hafizh Gozali

    3 ай мурун

    Jason, gonna need that Power Calculation on the New Hennessey Venom F5. just as a good comparison to the Jesko Absolut and SSC "Theoretical" Top Speed

  • anglin greaves

    anglin greaves

    3 ай мурун

    Maybe the settings got stuck on kmh😂

  • water1051

    water1051

    3 ай мурун

    Is this a joke? You called Shelby to get it sorted out? The same guy who published the fraudulent results? Either EE has a very dry sense of humor, or I’m missing something.

  • water1051

    water1051

    3 ай мурун

    How can you possibly say ‘a correction factor of 1.46’ with a straight face?

  • soccer2864

    soccer2864

    3 ай мурун

    Guys can figure all this out.. but still don’t know what we said wrong 😂😂😂

  • Roger Pullin

    Roger Pullin

    3 ай мурун

    At a base price of 1.9 million who really cares, sales tax where I live would be greater than $78K, and then another $182.00 a day personal property tax, just to let it sit in my garage, not me, I could not sleep at night.

  • Jordan Reed

    Jordan Reed

    3 ай мурун

    NOOOOO,... NOT MATH❗️😱🤢🤮☠️

  • Rhys Williams

    Rhys Williams

    3 ай мурун

    "Damn we got found out, but we will do it soon"
    Only in America

  • Savran Organik

    Savran Organik

    4 ай мурун

    love this guy bruh!

  • Claud Reindl

    Claud Reindl

    4 ай мурун

    The run was real, the results no so real.

  • KOB

    KOB

    4 ай мурун

    V well explained and presented. Great job.

  • amjan

    amjan

    4 ай мурун

    Damn, this is some hard core geek porn!!! I mean HARD core intellectual rape. I'm loving it!

  • jonthecomposer

    jonthecomposer

    4 ай мурун

    312 people disliked this because accurate data and math doesn't win races or records lol.
    (sarcasm)

  • BlueRice

    BlueRice

    4 ай мурун

    its extremely hard to get a car go above 300mph. need massive engine power and aero need to be almost like a butter knife. the hardest part is probably tires. at that speed tires expand and could rupture very easily.

  • Nico Larsson

    Nico Larsson

    4 ай мурун

    I think they took dyno data ... and added it to the video .. No air resistance in the dyno plus that resistance can be adjusted on the wheels. Regards Nico Larsson
    Ps
    I do not think the speed is from the GPS.
    It is the real speed from the speedometer but from a dyno run.

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      This is a good theory, but I don’t think they would be able to accurately match the shifting.

  • dark ages

    dark ages

    4 ай мурун

    Tuatara takes close to 10 seconds to accelerate from 250mph to 300mph.
    Please calculate the hp (power) necessary to accomplish this.
    Utter BS.

  • dark ages

    dark ages

    4 ай мурун

    Tuatara takes close to 10 seconds to accelerate from 250mph to 300mph.
    I think that this is utterly impossible for the given specs.

  • TANVIR AHMED

    TANVIR AHMED

    4 ай мурун

    anyone know when will ssc again perform the top speed run ?

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      They have no intention of rerunning the car

  • merlin 13

    merlin 13

    4 ай мурун

    Sorry folks but we got caught out with too many questions so we wont release technical data to prove our "facts", thanks for watching anyway.

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      We also won’t submit the data to Guniess WR

  • The Dwight Mamba

    The Dwight Mamba

    4 ай мурун

    Jason could end the 2020 Presidential election debate with one whiteboard and four colors.

  • Yuri Kiev

    Yuri Kiev

    4 ай мурун

    Integration 101, lol.

  • Jim Ferry

    Jim Ferry

    4 ай мурун

    I don't know fast cars, I drive boats and you feel the difference in maximum speed and 2/3 max. I also would never use Dewetron equipment again. You should never be able to dial in a correction factor. Lastly I typically have three GPS' on board not one. there is signal latency between GPS units. Anyway the car looks fast and has the power to put up big numbers.

  • Dee Mane

    Dee Mane

    4 ай мурун

    Y=mx+b

  • automotive

    automotive

    4 ай мурун

    Hmm sound's like they're hiding something

  • skruffy79

    skruffy79

    4 ай мурун

    I think they left in the high DF gearing and then scaled results to the Vmax gearing.....maybe?...

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      Maybe, but this doesn’t explain a 20 mph reading from a standstill

  • Dr: Monster

    Dr: Monster

    4 ай мурун

    The perfect car for Joe Biden

  • Denis Bassom

    Denis Bassom

    4 ай мурун

    Hilarious and very informative. This is as bad as all the UK built race engines that shipped to the US, rebadged and then suddenly gain 10% BHP. Still, stunning car whatever the numbers. Can't wait for the follow up.

  • Captain_Context

    Captain_Context

    4 ай мурун

    When he says "CORRECTION FACTOR" thats actually the cheating factor. The faking factor.

    • Captain_Context

      Captain_Context

      3 ай мурун

      @TheMattbrownbill Yeah as if Chrysler and GM wasn't doing exactly the same.

    • TheMattbrownbill

      TheMattbrownbill

      3 ай мурун

      A VAG 'correction factor' 🤔?

  • Captain_Context

    Captain_Context

    4 ай мурун

    Its funny how they use the Koenigsegg run as base for corrections. Because they know Koenigsegg DIDNT CHEAT.

  • The Real James Pickering

    The Real James Pickering

    4 ай мурун

    This world speed record was verified by Donald J Trump.

  • Bryan Hall

    Bryan Hall

    4 ай мурун

    Curious - what is the formula solved for Vmax? I admit I am lost solving for that with V in the equation used twice.

  • Phil Hawtin

    Phil Hawtin

    4 ай мурун

    Well done

  • Hart T

    Hart T

    4 ай мурун

    Koenigsegg wannabe

  • Erik 567

    Erik 567

    4 ай мурун

    Maybe they need to have a rule that they must go through a designated speed trap for the record. All this extra ways of figuring is crazy and can be wrong.

  • adb012

    adb012

    4 ай мурун

    Could it be that the video footage is not running at 100% speed? So that 1 second of video is not 1 second in real life?

  • Samuel Mills

    Samuel Mills

    4 ай мурун

    Yayyyyy integrals I love thoseeeee

  • Cam L

    Cam L

    4 ай мурун

    Great video, but you keep using the term “possible” when you really mean “plausible” which makes us purist philosophers go crazy! 😄

  • Chris Cantrell

    Chris Cantrell

    4 ай мурун

    Dude I totally feel undereducated after watching your videos

  • Craig Quann

    Craig Quann

    4 ай мурун

    A fraud/lie coming out of Nevada.... that never happens....

  • M Sears Garage

    M Sears Garage

    4 ай мурун

    My brain hurts

  • Tony Bjorklund

    Tony Bjorklund

    4 ай мурун

    Data Acquisition devices can have a lot more configuration issues to resolve before gathering good data than one would think. I have used a couple different packages in the past and you need to realize these are tools and you can use them in a variety of ways. Just like a hammer can make a fine adjustment or break a device. It’s all about how it is used.
    I think it’s totally possible one of the settings (of which there are many ) could have missed something potentially as simple as elevation or had a mis step on the filtering of the velocity data. No matter what you think, the signals are never 100 percent pure and without noise it’s the natural state of things.
    There’s a paradox that happens between filtering out the noise and getting very fast updates you can get one or the other pretty easy but getting both at the same time gets increasingly difficult as the sample rate increases because the events you’re monitoring are happening faster and getting noisier...

  • j0 m0

    j0 m0

    4 ай мурун

    Google maps ain't that accurate....

  • Chirantan S

    Chirantan S

    4 ай мурун

    This guy Schmee is into high end luxury cars and rare cars. So it would not be too far fetched if it turns out that Koeniggsegg paid him to create the confusion!!

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      There is no confusion. The record was fraudulent. The only confusion is coming from SSC not publishing the data.

  • Mike Downs

    Mike Downs

    4 ай мурун

    why didn't anyone assume the correction factor was in the video footage itself. 30 frames per second instead of 24 frames per second.
    That would explain the problem I believe.

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      Good theory, but it doesn’t explain a 20 mph reading from the GPS when the car is still stopped.

  • Dave Woff

    Dave Woff

    4 ай мурун

    All that tech and not a laser radar unit in the house?

    • water1051

      water1051

      3 ай мурун

      No way, that would have showed the true speed of 250-260

  • David Telllez

    David Telllez

    4 ай мурун

    SSC has a lot of press right now👏👏

  • Barry Joslin

    Barry Joslin

    4 ай мурун

    “Theoretically it’s possible to scale and filter any input values...”
    Maybe this math and “edited input values” explains the Nov presidential election in the US.
    Sincerely,
    Rudy Giuliani
    Hahaha.

  • Donald Duck

    Donald Duck

    4 ай мурун

    My father: 😠 "You can only legally go 65 miles per hour anyways!" 😠

    • Joshua Tate

      Joshua Tate

      3 ай мурун

      I know people like that, lol.

  • Daniel

    Daniel

    4 ай мурун

    Simpler statement: SCC is just a bunch of bologna.

  • Magnus B

    Magnus B

    4 ай мурун

    A 22 min video proving that SSC lied, but not actually spelling it out. That's some serious political skills 😁

    • Brent Bartley

      Brent Bartley

      3 ай мурун

      Sounds like SSC brought max downforce package cars for a vmax run, either they screwed up and brought the wrong cars or their vmax gearboxes weren't ready or reliable for a vmax run and then fudged the data because their claimed speeds aren't far off the theoretical top speeds for the specs they claim for the vmax box but the speeds they seemed to have run by video analysis are close to the max downforce car's theoretical top speed.

    • C41N4

      C41N4

      3 ай мурун

      Weird... the video I just watched proved they didn’t lie. 🤔

  • Jake Green

    Jake Green

    4 ай мурун

    Busted you lost all you're weapons and paid a bribe

  • trwsandford

    trwsandford

    4 ай мурун

    So.. what you are saying is... Biden isn't going to be confirmed as President?

  • Bryan Leal

    Bryan Leal

    4 ай мурун

    When all of you gonna be proven wrong 😃 oh boy I will slap you

    • Charlie Oronzon

      Charlie Oronzon

      4 ай мурун

      "Leal" haha such a good boi

  • Roland Jacobsson

    Roland Jacobsson

    4 ай мурун

    Just a guess, perhaps someone wanted to apply some low pass filtering like:
    Vnew = a*Vprev + (1-a)*Vcurrent
    But accidentally missed the ”1-” part :)

  • alex vagny

    alex vagny

    4 ай мурун

    I don´t want to enter in the loop of comments questioning if one can trust on the organizations that certify world speed records.
    Something interesting that I noticed here, is that the Cx has been declared as Cx=0.279 and then SSC has provided to this youtuber with Cx= 0.314 @ 500km/h with a set up to get just the necessary downforce for power transfer and no turn maneuvers (I assume due to compressibility effects). I know that SSC has measured the previous vehicle model (Ultimate Aero) at the NASA Langley Wind Tunnel and that nowadays nobody tests a ground vehicle in wind tunnels at more than (about) 230 km/h. I would appreciate if someone here has run CFD on different sports cars at very high speeds and calculated all the aero-coefficients (benchmarking 😄 )

  • russell hays

    russell hays

    4 ай мурун

    great video as usual... you do a great job explaining the math behind what you do.

  • daniel strayer

    daniel strayer

    4 ай мурун

    Was the camera frame speed verified?